Is this REALLY how Americans view the world

**OneStiffRod** · 11-19-2002

Prepare to be let down bro, 23yo, older and wiser than you. Maybe I should include sarcasm tags around my remarks so ignorants can understand.

>>and why do u guys think that everybody loves you????
[sarcasm][shocked]You mean that alot of ppl don't like americans.[/shocked][/sarcasm]

>>>Oop. Heres a third one: "The only reason we got involved was for PAYBACK for Vietnam"

Yeah, don't you read your history - I guess not - you're probably too young but we supported the mujahadeen for one simple reason - PAYBACK for Vietnam - we wanted soviet blood for the blood we spilled in vietnam.
That clears it up.

How can I make my country look bad when I tell the truth - that map is funny but it would be funnier - at least for americans - if we added some DOTS for those countries that need to be bombed. Include the French-side of CANADA in that list.

**TechWins** · 11-20-2002

Mine is more like America rules and the rest of you are insignificant.

Nah, I think that's funny, but in a general sense doesn't everybody sort of think like that? Like if you're from England you think England is the greatest empire ever, American is just a bunch of dumb babbling idiots who have a red-neck for a President, Australia as a really large prison area, France as a piece of crap, Canada as apart of England, and the rest of the world as something else. Eh, I think that's a pretty good comparison.

**dP munky** · 11-20-2002

here here!

**Fountain** · 11-20-2002

Originally posted by TechWins
Mine is more like America rules and the rest of you are insignificant.

Nah, I think that's funny, but in a general sense doesn't everybody sort of think like that? Like if you're from England you think England is the greatest empire ever, American is just a bunch of dumb babbling idiots who have a red-neck for a President, Australia as a really large prison area, France as a piece of crap, Canada as apart of England, and the rest of the world as something else. Eh, I think that's a pretty good comparison.

I think after reading the replies to my nice piccy, that most of the above could well be true. And we WERE the greatest empire ever.

Oh and you forgot to mention what we feel about Germany

Originally posted by BMJ
then I guess it's not so funny after all.

Yes you were right the first time BMJ. It IS a funny piccy, and should be treated as such.

Not blah blah Iraq/Canada/Canda or what ever.

**vasanth** · 11-20-2002

Originally posted by OneStiffRod
We need to add more RED dots throughout South America and especially Panama, remember we invaded there in 1988.

>>>The problem is in the definition of that. There are those who would call your "pulling your weight", "throwing your weight around".

Why shouldn't we throw our weight around, let's add some more dots to the map of every country who recieves more than a billion dollars in aid from the USA every year - There are tons of countries around the world who couldn't exist without the USA footin there bill.

The UN wouldn't exist without the US, NATO would have no bite without the US, Saddam would own Kuwait w/o the US, the Taliban would still rule Afghanistan, China would invade Taiwan, North Korea would've invaded So. Korea, the Soviet Union would still be menacing the world w/o the US, IRAN would own the Persian gulf w/o the US.

That's just a small list - NO other country on earth gives more than the US.

Let us attack IRAQ you european pussies... who do you think has and is footin the bill to keep saddam in line with the NO fly zones and military power in that region. Also, when we are done with IRAQ we will attack IRAN and then North Korea - that's just a heads up for all y'all - we just getting started.

what the hell do you mean... All these problems would not be there if thee was no America... you created the taliban, you created osama, you supplied Sadam with technologies during Sr.Bush period. and you poured billions into the UN to controll other super powers.. and you spent billions in aid to safegaurd your economic interest... go figure out how the word bannana republic came... so wihtout US i would say the world would have been a better place to live in...

**The Junglist** · 11-20-2002

That picture couldn't be any more TRUE, imo.

**novacain** · 11-20-2002

OneStiffRod

"it better to remain silent and seem a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

I'm not too young to remember Vietnam.

vasanth:: you tell 'em!

**minesweeper** · 11-20-2002

Yeah, don't you read your history - I guess not - you're probably too young but we supported the mujahadeen for one simple reason - PAYBACK for Vietnam - we wanted soviet blood for the blood we spilled in vietnam.
That clears it up.

You jump into someone else's war that you think will be a pushover.
Then you find out it's not a pushover and end up taking heavy losses.
Then you want revenge on those that caused your losses?!

What a bizarre sense of logic and reason.

**vasanth** · 11-20-2002

and after all this.. the Americans jump saying that they saved the world.. and saved other people... BIg joke......
The killing of innocent people in Iraq by Sadam regime to test chemical weapons took place during the period of Sr.Bush.. But then America was a close friend of his and never uttered a word... But now after ages they say what happened then was inhuman.... and that no one in the world can tolerate killing of innocent people..

Well what happend then... when they were close allies.. does that mean that if you are a friend of the US you can do anything.. but if you are an enemy of the US , what ever you do is wrong...

The overall purpose of the US behind seeking regime change in many conutries since the 60's is to make the countries concerned conform to its vision of international economic and political order - to liberalize and globalize and in the process to give up options of macro economic policy making by other countries. so as to become irrevocbly dependent on the US to permit the free play of American multinational corporations in their economies, and in particular provide them free access to their market and raw material supply.

Regimes such as those of Slobodan Milosevic of Yogoslavia and Mr. Hussein, which constitute a massive aberration from the system are simply crushed.. others are forced to fall in line, otherwise threats such as sanctions and cut in aid is said...

**FillYourBrain** · 11-20-2002

I'm starting to believe that a "no politics" rule should be implemented. We have people from around the world on this board and of course there are different beliefs running rampant. I'm proud to be an American and I think most others feel the same about their own nation/religion/racial group. Doesn't matter, for the harmony of this board, I think topics like this are damaging.

I could be wrong.

**vasanth** · 11-20-2002

well i agree with you... but some people think that their country, religion, faith etc are superior to others.. that is wrong.. first people have to learn to respect others..

what does he mean by saying that people in other countries live by the aid given by the US without knowing the facts right..

**napkin111** · 11-20-2002

I don't want Americans to be viewed as ignorant hot-heads who think they are superior, so...I live in the USA and have a sense of patriotism and national pride, but I don't think that we are "superior" to anyone because of size, wealth, etc. I don't consider one country or religion better or worse just because one person did something. Hitler headed the Hallocaust but that doesn't make everybody from Germany a bad person. The Taliban crashed plains into the WTC and the Pentagon, but that doesn't make all people from Afghanistan bad people. You can't judge a person based on the group they are part of (I'm not saying that you have...).

//napKIN

**Sentaku senshi** · 11-20-2002

>what the hell do you mean... All these problems would not be there if thee was no America... you created the taliban, you created osama, you supplied Sadam with technologies during Sr.Bush period. and you poured billions into the UN to controll other super powers.. and you spent billions in aid to safegaurd your economic interest... go figure out how the word bannana republic came... so wihtout US i would say the world would have been a better place to live in...<

So it would have beter to let the Soviets rule the middle east?

**salvelinus** · 11-20-2002

This was supposed to be a humorous thread. There are plenty of threads in the archives on why the US is great/evil/, etc. Just go re-read them, and send yourself an e-mail when you disagree. Ay yi yi, get a sense of humor, folks.
Maybe the webmaster should make a politics/US/Pakistan v. India/evolution/etc board, so people can argue pointlessly to their hearts content. Call it the argument board. Although it is fun to watch Clyde surface on religion v. science threads.
[edit] Not that I haven't been guilty myself. But this thread was just a joke, for pete's sake[/edit]

**Sebastiani** · 11-20-2002

America suffers from the vunerability of "idealistic" brainwashing, which is certainly due to the nature of our history. We are taught that ours is the only "free" country, and thus superior to all others to some degree. There are two conflicting side-affects, one good, one bad. On the one hand, we ingrain upon eachother this god-given freedom, and because of this, america is a very free nation. On the other hand, we are easily convinced by politicians who wish to crush any offensive nation, *whatever* the true reason may be, especially if they seem to suppress civil-rights. Admitedly, this is an over-simplification (how can that be avoided?!). The point is, though, due to causation, America is now the world super-power that England once was, and with this, imperialism and the urge to conquer is inevitable (wouldn't this hold true for any nation with such power?).