We can say that god created time and has always existed.This is the basic problem. How can life be created from nothing? Well, it's not created from nothing, it's created from atoms, molecules, etc. But OK, how are atoms, etc, created from nothing? Can't be, say the god believers, ergo, there's a god. But...WHERE DID GOD COME FROM??? Here's where the believers lose credibility. God just 'is", creation doesn't pertain to god, etc. Well duh! The same argument can be applied to life, atoms, etc.
Existance is really based on human's conception and
is due to our observance of the world he created.
They are forced to say that science doesn't know everything.I don't know if science has any real idea what 'caused' the big bang, although, since time itself didn't exist it may not be a valid question. Maybe science has some ideas there, don't know. But any question you put about 'where' something ultimately came from can be applied to god as well.
Which isn't really new.
I doubt both sides will go further on this because it seems
that all we can create are ideas.