"Ok I don't think you quite understand this concept....It is possible that the test was too hard. Blaming it on yourself just beats you down"
Ok, well surely a logical appraisal of the situation is best, to determine whether its your fault or not.
"Say you're late for an appointment. You park in the handicapp cause you feel rushed. You go to your appointment and while there your car is towed. Angerily you call your wife/mother to come pick you up. On the way to get you she's hit by a drunk driver, or any driver, and dies.
It is not an uncommon thing for people to blame themselves in this situation. If you had taken your time, whatever. However it wasn't your fault, it was the durnk driver's."
Ok but then i think most people would blame themselves, atleast for a while in that scenario, in fact i can't think anyone i know who wouldn't blame themselves.
"Trust me the studies are out there on this one. There are particuarlly a bunch that show that woman are much more likely to internalize, while men externalize"
Ok, i believe you. People with faith are more likely to externalise, but surely there can be many instances when externalising is bad. What if I really DO need to study harder for that test, then presumeably internalising is good?
"Well first of all yes it can be derrived by data, that's what psycologists do, using science, scientific method, and such they derrived those conclusions. What more do you want?
Umm why don't you read my quote again:"
Sorry, you are quite right, i misread your quote.
"Therefore the point is, if they live satisfying lives, and don't cause others to live unsatisfactory ones, who cares? They are happy. And under atheism when you die that's it, so nothing wrong there. If you try and force your view that they shouldn't have a faith based view on them, then you're just as bad as the people who tried to force their views on others in teh past, and often caused wars."
Hold on a minute, your data seems to support my views rather than contradict them. If atheists can live satisfied lives just as well as theists then what benefit is there to believeing? No doubt to the people who are believers right now, yes its important, but if they hadn't been brought up as belivers it wouldn't be!
The question is this: Which would be a better world, one with institutionalised irrational beliefs or one without?
I think for many reasons i have already given it is one without.
