Thread: C or Java as a first language

  1. #31
    That's odd. I seem to have accidently placed an unhappy smiley in the above post. I didn't want to put any smiley there. I think I know what caused it though(colon immediately followed by left parentheses) Anyway, the smiley doesn't mean anything.

  2. #32
    Thanks for the links. I didn't see your reply when I posted my post about the smiley. I will check out those links. By the way, I don't know if you seen it or not, but I made a post about the books you recommended. If I recall correctly, one of my concerns was that I the 3rd edition of the C++ book will be nearly impossible to obtain by the time I actually get around to learning the language. About when should that take place? As a matter of fact, how long should it take me to be learning these things? How long should it take the average person to acquire a basic understanding of a language? For example:

    "Any person of normal intellect should have developed a high level of ability with Java in two months. After this point, you should immediately move on to C++. Learning that should take three months. Mastering it should take a couple years...."

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    C++ Primer 3rd edition will only become dated when the new compilers are built.

    The C++ language is Standardized. This international standard is revised every five years. It will be revised in 2003. The compilers will not adopt the new standard until 2004-2005. If you are using Unix or Linux than g++ will adopt the new standard more quickly, but Microsoft will lag behind.

    You should go to the bookstore and purchase C++ Primer 3rd editon and begin reading it immediately. It's an extensive beginner/intermediate text (1,200 pages). If you want, we will walk you through it.

    Warning, chapter 2 is advanced. The book is organized in such a way that it presents the big picture of C++ in chapter 2, just to demonstrate what OOP is in the context of different paradigms (procedural, object based, object oriented, generic). The slower pased tutorial stuff begins on chapter 3, and chapter 1 is okay as well. It's worth reading chapter 2 even though you won't understand it, but if you can't read it, than skip it and come back to it at the end of the book.

    If you want, you can email me as you read the book. Ask me a question or just ask questions here. I'm actively reading this book right now. The writer worked with Bjarne Stroustrup at AT&T while developing the C++ programming language.

    Go for the best.

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    CorJava -

    Here is your thread that accidently got deleted, and here is why:

    A moderator moved the thread to the Deleted Post Archive, in order to take some offensive and irrelevent posts off of it and then return it to the GD. However, before he was finished the job he lost his internet connection.

    In the future if something like this happens and you are registered then you can PM me or another mod and find out what happened and why. In fact, if you are registered the chances are that you will be PMed by a mod when your thread gets deleted. You of course wouldn't have been in this case since it was an internet problem but....

    Sorry for the trouble,


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  5. #35
    No problem. Thanks for the explanation. The only thing I was worried about was whether or not I said something wrong. I think your effort to make me feel welcome here says much about you and what this forum stands for . I appreciate the invitation to continue posting and to register, but like I said before, in light of some of the comments that were made, I don't think this is the right place for me so I won't be hanging around much longer.

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