what do you use

**moonwalker** · 07-27-2002

I heard that borland c++ 6 builder (personal) is 69 bucks.
is it worth it ?

Is there anything that I can't do with BC++ 5.5 (free version) that
I can do with the 69 buck personal edition, besides the IDE ?

**dead_cell** · 07-27-2002

I've been using DevC++4 for the last while, but lately I went out and bought VC++.NET - I'm still getting used to the millions of tabs and options Microsoft has so thankfully thrown into there... But overall the switch wasn't all that horrific.

**Klinerr1** · 07-27-2002

whats thwe difference in the difference msvc++ 6 versions?

**Ruski** · 07-27-2002

Originally posted by Klinerr1
dev c+ 5 is not recomended to use until they complete it, ive gotten uncalled compiler errors with it because of its beta. im gettgin 5 when its done, unless i buy vc++ 6 by hen

I dont have any problems so far

**Powerfull Army** · 07-27-2002

Speaking of compilers,i tried alot and am having trouble geting 1 for true-dos(16 bit apps).Can someone tell me what(in the free section of borland compilers) i need to download to get a 16-bit compiler?I have bcc32 but what do you use for 16-bit and how do you get it?

**~~frenchfry164~~** · 07-27-2002

yes, dev-c++ USED to not be recommended, BUT they just came out with a new version of it a few weeks ago. I downloaded it to see how buggy it was (I tried the old version of 5, and it wouldn't even compile anything without throwing 5 errors at me, and then one of those This program needs to terminate messages), and I was shocked, because it works very well with WinXP and it works fine. It also has a bunch of new features, like the source explorer (it's a tab on the left part that has all your source files) that lets you go through and look at your parts of the source like functions, classes, structures, etc. and it lists all the variables, member functions, and all that right there. If you click on one of the variables it'll take you to where it is implemented (also where it is declared if you right click and click "Goto declaration") and it works VERY well with Allegro and Multisource Projects.

**Powerfull Army** · 07-27-2002

I tried that,it doesnt compile 16-bit.Anyway I'd much rather have the Borland 16-bit compiler,how do you get it?Anyone?

**Klinerr1** · 07-28-2002

Originally posted by frenchfry164
yes, dev-c++ USED to not be recommended, BUT they just came out with a new version of it a few weeks ago. I downloaded it to see how buggy it was (I tried the old version of 5, and it wouldn't even compile anything without throwing 5 errors at me, and then one of those This program needs to terminate messages), and I was shocked, because it works very well with WinXP and it works fine. It also has a bunch of new features, like the source explorer (it's a tab on the left part that has all your source files) that lets you go through and look at your parts of the source like functions, classes, structures, etc. and it lists all the variables, member functions, and all that right there. If you click on one of the variables it'll take you to where it is implemented (also where it is declared if you right click and click "Goto declaration") and it works VERY well with Allegro and Multisource Projects.

really, kool.. but im just gonna stick with 4 untill 5 is completed.

**squireBOB** · 07-28-2002

I WWF myway around Borland CBuilder 5 Pro. I tried VC++6 ENT but I never seemed to win a match with it.

**Ruski** · 07-28-2002

Originally posted by Klinerr1

really, kool.. but im just gonna stick with 4 untill 5 is completed.

I've got the 5 and it's really cool

**toaster** · 08-05-2002

to that someone who wanted MSDEV 6.0 Enterprise Edition:

why? std and pro editions are just missing a few buttons, that's all there is for the extra 100(s) bucks difference.

if you're desperate, you can get it for a discount price.

however, you must be a HS/College/University student.

anyway, you can only create for the Win32 compatible platforms with MSDEV just FYI.

don't just stick to MS, try other flavors.
each one has their own advantages and disadvantages.
if you like creating DOS based programs, try using Borland or other dos compilers like DJGPP.

the link:
http://efollett.journeyed.com/cgi-bi...REQC=3&UREQD=4

as for security, I had no problems so far. by hey, still costly (~$400). if you have previous versions, you can upgrade rather.

**moi** · 08-05-2002

Originally posted by Klinerr1
there are 3 main compilers i see used, dev c++ 4, borland(free version) and MSVC++ 6 enterprise. what do you use?

I use dev c++ 4

leave it to klinerr1 to leave out gcc, which is without contest as popular as or more popular than every compiler on that list

**jdinger** · 08-05-2002

Originally posted by toaster
anyway, you can only create for the Win32 compatible platforms with MSDEV just FYI.

and you read this where?

Unregistered · 08-05-2002

Originally posted by toaster

anyway, you can only create for the Win32 compatible platforms with MSDEV just FYI.

dood, just about anything can compile for win32

**toaster** · 08-05-2002

one word makes a big difference:

"anyway, you can ONLY ..."

this applies for the executables unless you are doing html, scripts, SQL, and the other stuff so java is the most portable in MSVS unlike the others. If your just working with MSVC++ 6.0 EE, you're only able to create Win apps (that means only for Windows and no DOS, Linux, and the other OSes unless they create Windows emulation which Linux did started a while back).

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