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    Asm

    I was wondering if anyone here knows ASM and if so, do u think its usefull to learn it(even if its just for helping understanding archetecure of computers
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    I know a little. It is good to know how the computer functions. This allows you to write more effecient code.

    Being able to write in it gives you a great deal of power because if you need speed, you can tell the computer exactly what to do.

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    >o u think its usefull to learn it<

    I think it's very useful to learn assembly. You understand exactly what is happening, and this enables you to write better code even in HLLs.

    Check out the assembly forum over at FD. They'll (Compuboy and Garfield) have you a guru in a week.

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    I know some ASM but it is Macro Assemble (MASM)
    it is not pure asm ...
    it has such things like :

    .while
    .if
    .elif
    structures...
    invoke ( this is the calling macro...)
    no more
    ...
    push _val3
    push _val1
    push _val0
    call whatever
    pop ebx
    pop ebx
    pop ebx
    ...
    just :
    ...
    invoke whatever,_val0,_val1,_val3
    ...
    it does the above automaticly

    actually it resembles C
    even some porgrams that i make
    have less writting than C!!!!


    Yes it is usefull !!
    Especialy if you have some time-critical modules
    Best way is to design the module in C
    Clean the code as much as you can
    And translate it function by function into ASM...

    BUT beware ! If you start to learn you will have to study every detail in your code!
    Sometimes badly written code is slower that C! (because of the compiler)
    If you can't beat the compiler ! don't code in ASM

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    I was wondering if anyone here knows ASM and if so, do u think its usefull to learn it(even if its just for helping understanding archetecure of computers
    At university I've learned ASM, but currently I don't use it very much. Mostly because I don't need it and it is not a language which is very recommendable for large projects.

    But it is very usefull to learn, just because programming in and understanding ASM requires you to study computer architecture and micrprocessor technology in special. When you understand these things, you'll understand why and how higher level languages work.

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    I agree with u guys, thats why I gonna learn ASM bit by bit , as i find it amazing to know more about the archetcure of computer especially the RAM........

    I got the book(Art of assembly) and some tutorials ....wish me good luck

    if anyone like to co-operate so we can help each other it would be amazing:
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    M.A.

    Go to the assembly forum at www.flashdaddee.com and download the book titled assembly book.zip. It is in the sticky at the top of the board. This book is very good, new, and understandable.

    Thats my humble opinion.

    P.S. I found the exact link. It is http://64.91.238.78/forums/attachmen...=&postid=13651. Good Luck!

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    >>...Art of assembly...
    is there anywhere in the net a copy of this book in html varriant

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    Art of assembly is available in http://onlinereferences.dynodns.net:6969/or/default.asp
    as PDF file.its free registeration , go and check it

    thank you guys..........


    OMG Im spending my time now on learning c++ and improve my abilities in VB beside the new visitor(ASM the monister
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    You could also consider to take a look at Java. This language is used a lot these days. It can be found anywhere, in embedded systems, internet applications, IT applications etc. But I understand it could be too much at once.

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    Thanks GOLFINGUY!

    i didnt start htis thread, but ive been looking for a good asm tutorial for along time, and i had AoA(art of assembly) but it tuaght high level assembly HLLA, and i wanted to learn actual pure assembly, anyways. thx.
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    >Go to the assembly forum at www.flashdaddee.com and download the book titled assembly book.zip. It is in the sticky at the top of the board. This book is very good, new, and understandable.<

    Yes. I can't emphasize enough how good that book is. Aren't you the one that posted it, golfinguy?

    IMO, that book makes AoA shameful...

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    Yep, I did put it up. I hate AoA; it is crap. It isn't even real assembly.

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    The thing I like about this one is it's focused on 32-bit assembly in protected mode...which is right down my alley.

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