Thread: Aliens!!!!!!!!!!

>>zero as in like zero

Yes, I'm aware of the meaning of zero. What I'm a little lost on is what you're refering to. Zero what?

>>or um keep your day job

I take it that you're disagreeing with one of my statements but you didnt specify which one. All of them? Any of them? One in particular?

>>you want me to clarify more?

Please.

By aliens do you mean intelegent life or just life? because those are VERY diffrent questions.

I think there must be both "intelligent life" and "just life" like kermi said, out there. I dont see any reason why there cant be life in any one of the millions of galaxies present.

As far as the state of their technological advancement goes.. who knows it vould be higher than ours or maybe even lesser. It could be even same. They might even look like you and me.

I agree with what DISGUISED said
>>I don't think you can really make an intelligent guess about life forms ..<<



BTW.. I thought we agreed that DA was an alien , where is he/she/it/they/them anyways.

they would have either contacted us or they would have been compelled to destroy us by now - as many species as there must be...you cannot convince me that there aren't evil ones.
do you ever think about what our solar system may have been like before earth was hospitable to life? e.g. could jupiter have been a small planet at one time? could it have been the sun? and the sun was a gas giant? and what about earth when life was hospitable during it's early evolution...e.g. there are theories it was tilted differently....if this is true....then the north pole could be hiding civilizations beneath it's ice...and are we sure people didn't think exactly the way we do today? and it's just that they couldn't make it happen? they could come up with the same kinds of ideas we have today...for inventions, innovations etc...they just couldn't apply anything...maybe it was too hot outside...bad air all of the time....and all they could think about for hundreds of thousands of years was surviving...and keeping other hysterical cavemen off your back long enough to reproduce....bad atmospheric conditions could hold a species back.....don't you think?

Originally posted by lightatdawn
We think of technology as a uniform thing across the board but it only seems that way to us. The greater the need, the greater the results. It seems likely that another species would have different needs than what we have experienced throughout or history and thus would have developed radically different technologies to suit. Whos to say said technologies are in the form of mechanical devices and not more organic advancements?

Welcoming more feedback on the theory.

Yes the media play's a big role in our preception's on anything unknown specifically the alien's. I think that when we think about life on a planet (the only reason i say planet is i can't imagine life in space itself) we need look only at our own planet. Why is it we have to think that other life is as intelligent as human's? We are the freak's of our planet, we are the one's spending day's on our computer when other animal's are doing more worthwhile activity's such as hunting for food. And on another note (aside from my personal loathing of some of human activity) what we do is quite natural, if we concider ourselve's to be animal's and nothing more, yes that mean's we arn't the god's of our universe.

And i'm not quite sure as to the meaning of organic advancment's, do you mean similar to science, or do you mean evolution? If you can understand me...

>By aliens do you mean intelegent life or just life? because those are VERY diffrent questions.<

Well since there is already proof that life once existed on Mars that debate is really one sided. I'm pretty sure there were talking about inteligent life.

>they would have either contacted us or they would have been compelled to destroy us by now - as many species as there must be...you cannot convince me that there aren't evil ones.<

They might be some that are evil. Perhaps there is some sort of planetry confedieration keeping them in cheak.

>>i'm not quite sure as to the meaning of organic advancment's, do you mean similar to science, or do you mean evolution?

Both. Either/Or. They could have developed technologies that alter their physical properties, etc. Or whos to say that they do not have the inate abaility to alter their own properties at will and have honed this skill to increased ability?

>>Well since there is already proof that life once existed on Mars

Not that I'm aware of. There are plenty of theories describing the various phenomenom found there but none of them have enough evidence to back them up sufficiently at this point. Its definatly a possibility though.

>>They might be some that are evil.

Evil by whos standards? We can only define evil through our own interpretation of our thought process. Perhaps another species thinks of evil in an entirly different light and would consider our species 'evil'. After all, we kill our own kind dont we? A species defintion of evil, should it even that concept even exist in its social condition, would be entirely dependant on the species itself. Evil is not a universal concept.

>Not that I'm aware of. There are plenty of theories describing the various phenomenom found there but none of them have enough evidence to back them up sufficiently at this point. Its definatly a possibility though.<

I'm refering to the two metors that came from mars that showed signs of life.

<<Both. Either/Or. They could have developed technologies that alter their physical properties, etc. Or whos to say that they do not have the inate abaility to alter their own properties at will and have honed this skill to increased ability? <<

I think the chance's of life on another planet developing technologies is slim, condition's on our planet make such thing's possible such as electricity, but there's only so much that can be done scientificly without it(stating the obvious). But your thought's on evolution leave much to question. Looking at our own planet such thing's already exsist, the camelion for example has evolved this way, does the camilion have to be mentally aware of this ability for it to be concidered 'increased ability'? Does life on another planet have to be 'smart' to be concidered more evolved than human's, i don't think so.

>>condition's on our planet make such thing's possible such as electricity

Exactly my point. Conditions influence the direction developments will/can travel. Yet the universe is simply energy unharnessed, so whos to say that another species hasnt found an entirly different way to harness that energy and put it to use? We think of electricity as the only way to power so many devices but thats not true. Its not far fetched to imagine harnessing any number of other possible energy soruces for direct use in powering a device.

>>such thing's already exsist, the camelion for example has evolved this way

As have many other creatures. Humans have developed technologies as a method of survival. Theres no specific reason however that another species could not have developed incredible physical traits that would place them far above any other creature on their planet. Imagine an far more advanced jellyfish. A creature composed of numerous other little creatures. The mutating possibilities of this organism would be great.


>>I'm refering to the two metors that came from mars that showed signs of life.

Yes. There is strong evidence supporting the theory but I dont think theres been enough agreement and subsequent occurances to lend enough credence to it yet.

The only info I could find was all very supportive but nothing concrete:

"may well have survived a plunge into early Earth's atmosphere"

"However, there is still a tendency to interpret results like this as merely showing that organics, rather than life, are being added to the Earth, but the trend is surely moving towards panspermia," - Wickramasinghe"

"A NASA research team of scientists at the Johnson Space Center and at Stanford University has found evidence that strongly suggests primitive life may have existed on Mars more than 3.6 billion years ago."

You get the picture. Its pretty damn interesting though. I lean towards the theory, myself.

<<Imagine an far more advanced jellyfish. A creature composed of numerous other little creatures. The mutating possibilities of this organism would be great.

I'm glad that the topic has shifted away from intelligent life and a little tword live creature's. It's like the shark that has a little fish following it cleaning it. But again our perception's are a from idea's and discovery's from our own planet. This is soon going to start resembiling the imagination post's, but what if the universe itself is a living being, and human's and other animal's the creature's that are inside it, as we'll as the other life form's that exsist possibly on other planet's.

As we create better and better technoligy and push out into the universe, then that is what will keep the living being going, or it could be anything were doing that were not aware of. This is all very abstract, but if your going to use perception's that are derived from human experience to describe the unknown, then i might as we'll be abstract.

And if you understand me i take my hat of to you.