Thread: Zone Alarm Firewall

>> of course i know that but most true virus do not connect to the internet

Yeah dude... but the whole purpose of this thread is talking about internet and trojans and people hacking your computer. Nobody here is talking about BIOS viruses et al.

netstat will tell you if you are connected to anywhere: virus... sneaky hacker... or whatever. It is just one tool of many that you can use to diagnose strange occurences etc.

Witch_King... instead of shutting down your computer at night as suggested... try this if you have win98 or later.

run winipcfg in the start/run box

click on more info... that gives you a lot of info on your addressing, subnets etc.

Click Release all... voila.... you are no longer connected.

When you wake up in the morning... click renew all and happy surfing.

Don't only rely on ZAs internet lock if you think something suspicious is happening.

Originally posted by Betazep
>>Not true. If a hacker gets into your machine, he can use your ip
as a jump off to other sites where he will wreak his havoc. This
is commonly known as "bouncing," and provides one means
for the guilty one to cover his tracks.

Yes true and you are stating common knowlege. Do you only read the sections of posts that interest you?

My machine is a harder target than all of my neighbors. If you scanned past my ip, you wouldn't even see a reply from my computer (as if I didn't exist as all)... but people next to me have sendmail running, ftp, telnet, port 139 actively accepting connetctions, etc etc etc.

Why would a hacker bang their head on my firewall for an hour or two when they can be in one of my neighbor's computers in two minutes or less. Then they can 'bounce' away to their hearts content.

So I will rephrase... the loot isn't big enough for the task needed to break in when there are much easier targets that deliver the same outcome.

Is that better for you...

Not true. You're speculating. I disagree with your speculation.
And didn't I say bouncing was a common term? What interests
me and others most are subjects that we feel we are a little bit
knowledgeable in. So we join the conversation.

As to why a hacker would bang his head against your firewall,
the answer is simple--because, like Mount Everest, it's there. He
wants to know what it is you deem so important that you have to take security measures to protect it. Your neighbors are no challenge to him. They bore him. You, on the other hand with your impregnable firewall, intrigue the hacker. It took MS and Norton less than two minutes to
get past my firewall and tell me my vulnerabilities.

Better for me...? I don't know what you mean. It's neither here nor there.

rick barclay

>>What interests
me and others most are subjects that we feel we are a little bit
knowledgeable in. So we join the conversation.

First off... bite me


Secondly... thanks for joining in the conversation. Your controversial nature gives us a lot to talk about.


I guess for the final... we will have to agree to disagree. I see your point, but like I stated... my computer doesn't even respond to scanning. If I never came to a board where my IP was logged, my IP would never seem to even exist. So I don't even look like mt everest. I look like just another empty socket.

I think that it is more appealing to some hackers to hit the bleeding and I am positive it is such for these 'script kiddies.' (some of which become good hackers I imagine.)

I envy people that can get through my security, and I in know way think it isn't possible. I run everything pretty sloppy at home. Mostly because I do not care. I update my virus software daily and run a firewall. I am doing my part to keep things a little more secure from attacks from China or wherever.

>> and you silly people dont have to explain to me what netstat does

You don't have to resort to namecalling dude. I may be silly, but I have been on these boards for a long time. no-one is one of the smarter people I have come across on these boards in all that time. So if you want to call me silly, go ahead... but don't blanket everyone.

I think you just are angry because you got shown up...

I agree with Betazep. If you are a teen than please try to hide your immaturity because you are very annoying to the adults and we have had enough.

I should know about my OS as well as the internet however I have not been involved with computers for very long and I've mostly focused on learning programming languages C and C++. Infact I have only had a professional operating system for a couple months.

I appreciate the help from those who are respectful such as Betazep, Stealth, Fordy, no-one, Rick, etc.

BTW I cant find 'winipcfg'. It's not registering as a command or as an executable. I have Win2k.

Sorry bout that... I forgot you were on win2k.

From a command line type

ipconfig /?

you will notice that you can /release_all and /renew_all

The text may be a bit different... but essentially....

ipconfig /release_all

and

ipconfig /renew_all

should do the trick (make sure you check the help because it could be /release-all etc.... but it is something like that)

~Betazep

p.s. Glad to humor you SOAK... are you going to show us your skillz and figure out the Aardvark problem (the one that is easy you said)? I will give you some help... the box is a RH 6.2

>BTW I cant find 'winipcfg'.

I'm not sure if it is an NT/2000 command, although that doesn't make much sense as NT/2000 are OSs made to connect to networks. Have you tried looking up your help files or searching through Microsofts site?

If you have a DOS prompt you should be able to use ipconfig in NT/2000. Have you tried calling winipcfg from a prompt?

Witch_King, the reason why you can't use winipcfg in 2000 is because it is not an NT/2000 function. Instead you may want to go to a DOS prompt and type ipconfig /all | more. This should provide information that winip would normally provide. hth.

>>im trying to be nice and you keep trying to make me angry... but im not

I am not trying to make you angry.

If you don't want to help, then don't say things like "its easy" etc. Everything you post is "Oh I can do that... but I am not going to show you how because you are a skript kiddie and I am a big bad uber hackor."

So you say all this stuff... and I say... step up to the plate. Show don't tell. And you consider this as insults from me.

You are silly bro...

I hate when people act like they have nothing to learn. I have a degree in computer science, A+ certs, working on my CCNA and MCSE, and I still consider myself to know nothing. Computers are a big world Uber SOAK... it is ok if you don't know it all...


~Betazep

Witch_King, the reason why you can't use winipcfg in 2000 is because it is not an NT/2000 function. Instead you may want to go to a DOS prompt and type ipconfing /all | more.

Thanks for furthering my info stealth. Good stuff.

~Betazep

hehe, something about saying "Big bad uber SOAK" sounds funny to me...

>>First off... bite me

my sentiments exactly.

It's one thing if you actually have some knowledge on the subject, but even if you do don't insult people and think you're all high-n-mighty. Second, you haven't SHOWN you have the knowledge, you just insult people.

>Thanks for furthering my info stealth. Good stuff.

Yeah nps. I didn't realise until after my posts that you'd already mentioned ipconfig. But I did quick search around and found out why it wasn't working. Two heads are better than one I guess.