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    Oh...

    Well to do it in Windows XP/NT/2000 is simple. but you've gotta use API and set UserTokens. Take a look at msdn.microsoft.com it's got an example somewhere. Search for ExitWindowsEx API call and see what comes up.

    Or Go here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...tdown_7z8u.asp

    Good luck.

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    I do believe that Microsoft is trying to take over every language, and along with that... every computer. It's a monopoly and now they are shipping licensed software (practically free) to schools and training students to use microsoft products. It's like a new generation of mindslaves dependant on Microsoft. My school is already filled with slaves itself. There are classes in my school that train people in the art of Microsoft suite products. I feel that if I give in I will surely become part of everybody else. That is why I chose to program for what I do.

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    Originally posted by Xterria

    grow up, 007.


    hehe hahaha
    Am I missing something here?

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    ee nooooooooooooooo....

    hehe hahaha

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    the .Net framework is a very good idea , and stable framework for applications... but you have to know whats new and what good to use it with.. here is a good article showing which is better to use for your application Architecture:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...signNetApp.asp

    i suggest a read on that... its good...
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    Originally posted by Denethor2000

    [ediT]and btw, microsoft does not own ar neither did he create c, c++, c#, vc++, borland, or any other c coding program or language[/ediT]
    Well, they did create C# and they did make Visual C++ b/c Visual C++ is just a program that makes it easier to program with MFC.

    Also, they aren't trying to take over every language. They are, however, trying to expand their newer languages to have limitless abilities. I don't consider this to be taking over any language. However (before I get flamed) Microsoft does hate Java. At most developer key notes Ballmer always dissess Java.

    And no offense, but tailoring your skills to Microsoft isn't that bad of an idea. I doubt most of you use any *nix (let alone program for/in it). Microsoft is a respected platform for business and its not like they are going away anytime soon.

    Bottom line: keep an open mind and never stop learning.

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    I will keep an open mind, but I do not wish to program for computers forever. I am planning on moving into consoles.
    -Mike
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    Its Complicated

    Microsoft doesn't give a **** about programmers or the people who use them. This world runs off of commerce, not religion, not friendship. Do you think that they actually make mistakes in their OS unintentionally? Every time that they make an OS they need something wrong with it so that you buy the next. Now begin to think about .NET for one second. With that you need to be Certified in VC++, some business bull**** course that I forget its name, then be working as a developer for applications for 2 years minimum. Then after all of that you can become certified in their oh so wonderful .NET, then they advertise on TV that you can do so much more with .NET. Don't you realize whats happening? Then they come out with Common Runtime Language scripting. I wouldn't be surprised to see them attempt to get ridd of executions period along with the API system and try to force people to CLR script into an OS instead. It would slow down the industry but think about how much money they would make from certifications alone? Their OS is the most common world wide, and since this world runs off of commerce Microsoft would be forced to stay the same or Programmers forced to take Certifications and go back and learn Microsofts new system of doing things. For instance: Microsoft makes something called Liquid Wave(I believe thats the name) for making webpages then they make IE compatible... then about 1 year later they say "We are discontinueing its support all together" so they probably made at least 100,000 off of that(depending on the popularity) then just toss it out of the window. So what I am trying to say is that Programmers could be screwed over very quickly if all they know is VC++ or VB or C# because in any new product they can change anything that they want.

    Its complicated and thats why I think its safe to know VC++ as well as something like Assembly or something that is not too incredibly dependant. Then with Microsofts ideas to make programming easier and easier then who knows what will come up next, they've got some wierd ideas. Maybe I'm just overly exagerating but I think its worth thinking about.
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    howdy,
    you would be surprised at how many of the messages on this board originate from a linux box, for example - this message",
    I doubt most of you use any *nix (let alone program for/in it).
    anyway in direct response "I DO"

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    I don't like you very much. Please post a lot less.
    Cheez
    *and then*
    No, I know you were joking. My point still stands.

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    I'm just curious, what operating system is easier/more fun to program in? I know I've only done windows (and I'm growing weary).
    -Mike
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    Originally posted by dayknight
    True is said about the OS

    and till now this thread hasnt got anygood, actually nothing
    system("logoff");
    doesnt work, i am running win98. it tells bad command or file name
    people next time plz give the right code (and maybe mention ur OS)!

    please read the whole thread before you post your ignorant replies. I said it works for XP and i said it MAY work for other OS'.

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    Originally posted by InFeStEd-ArCh0n
    I do believe that Microsoft is trying to take over every language, and along with that... every computer. It's a monopoly and now they are shipping licensed software (practically free) to schools and training students to use microsoft products. It's like a new generation of mindslaves dependant on Microsoft. My school is already filled with slaves itself. There are classes in my school that train people in the art of Microsoft suite products. I feel that if I give in I will surely become part of everybody else. That is why I chose to program for what I do.

    P.S.
    "Microsoft Works" will always be an oxymoron

    monopoly is illegal. bill knows that. he wouldnt tryi t hes too greedy. or maybe he's jsut greedy neough...

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    Originally posted by InFeStEd-ArCh0n
    I will keep an open mind, but I do not wish to program for computers forever. I am planning on moving into consoles.
    consoles are obsolete, currently that is.
    right now no consoles have internet access, although they will in time. Also, regular users cannot program console games, unlike computers. You do not have easy-to-use mouse' and keyboards. Every time a console upgrades the computers will have upgraded more. The small console boxes provide for little compliance. If all of this got upgraded, it probably still wouldnt be as good as a computer. Also, what would it be , really? Has a TV monitor, keyboard, mouse, a stack, vid cards? Just a computer that only runs CDs online. Stick with ocmputers and you wont lose

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    I, personally, would rather play a game on a console rather than a computer. Ever play Resident Evil for Gamecube? You **** your pants, it's so scary! Imagine it with a giant TV and huge speakers? I haven't seen a 53 inch monitor yet, but I can't wait for one either. Plus consoles like GBA provide great portability with great games. I am more comfortable with controllers than a mouse and a keyboard (at least for most games, not deathmatch). I can't wait for Castlevania to come out on GBA. Plus programming on a console makes you not have to worry about operating systems and compatability with video cards and such.
    -Mike
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    I haven't seen a 53 inch monitor yet, but I can't wait for one either.
    I have, it's called TV out, and it's packaged with most new video cards

    I am more comfortable with controllers than a mouse and a keyboard (at least for most games, not deathmatch).
    Well then why not try your hand at a selection of controllers for the computer? There are hundreds... some which are much better than any currently out for console.

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