Thread: Who contributed most to the defeat of Fascist Germany ??

Originally posted by nvoigt
>that vote is very wrong change it mod

This is a vote ! What shall I do ? Change it ? Very funny, what country do you come from, China ?


>but why do i even bother replying, can't the MODS get rid of this idiot ???????

Yes, we can. But only if you give us a choice. We are here in our sparetime, and don't read all 150 posts in a thread. If you think something is offensive, report it.

you're right as always...sorry...anyway like you say it wasn't really offensive, just kiddies having fun ! i was a jerk when i was a kiddie too, i guess we all were !! and when you're a kiddie you don't realise it, so why bother arguing with them, better to just ignore it......

>Germany couldn't defeat the RAF and could never invade Britain after losing the Battle of Britain. The Royal Navy was also the 2nd biggest in the world....most historians think it would have been EXTREMELY difficult if not well nigh impossible, and would take 2 years planning, by which time about 2 million British soldiers would have been waiting for any invading Germans. don't forget D- day took 2 years of planning and total air and sea superiority, and 'enigma' telling us what the Germans were thinking and planning.<

of course Germany was far a head on supplies and everything it needed at the start of the war. The United States army at the beging of the war was quite small, and under equiped.

>but the point is not that, it is that Hitler never wanted to invade Britain at all. he wanted to preserve the British Empire, he admired it. he didn't want to fight Britain. so it would have been very easy for Britain/Germany to come to some arrangement, trading partnership etc. it is probable that Britain would have been better off doing that, than exausting ourselves in another long war, which we couldn't really afford. (not that i think we should have made peace). If we had made peace the USA would not have been fighting Hitler, it woould have been impossible without the British isle as a massive aircraft carrier. it would have just been Germany/ Soviet war.<

Lets see the Battle of Britan was his first major setback and I belived he invaded the Sovit Union after that (don't have info on me.)

Originally posted by Sentaku senshi
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Lets see the Battle of Britan was his first major setback and I belived he invaded the Sovit Union after that (don't have info on me.)

yep, after dallying in Greece and Yugoslavia...in fact these delays were CRITICAL, wasting time..meaning there was less time to defeat the Soviets b4 the onset of the Russian winter...

yeah, B. O. B. was touch and go, but with the Spitfire, RADAR, bad tactics ie bombing London not airfields, small German bombers (they had nothing like the Lancaster, B-24 's etc), range of their fighters, it was won....and an invasion then was impossible.
ive been reading a lot about it, revisionist historians are saying, with hindsight it is felt that Hitler wanted to destroy the RAF making the UK vunerable to invasion and then we would make peace with him, on his terms of course, but not invading and taking over the British Empire. The German invasion plans were relatively half hearted, they made plans and built barges to carry troops, but its now regarded by many, as more of a threat than a serious plan. but "and would take 2 years planning" was getting a bit carried away !!
and the Brit army was very very weak at this time(but rebuilding very rapidly with equipment bought from the USA), and who knows?? its great to have hindsight.
but i think Hitler was far more interested in going East and conquering USSR.

but.......
altho the Royal Navy would have taken a lot of sinking, and a little known fact, the Royal Navy had nearly as many submarines as the Germans.......and a cross-channel invasion would have been very tricky and dangerous....its still more than likely that that if the RAF had lost the BOB we'd have made peace with Hitler on his terms, changing the whole outcome of the war....so as Churchill so memorably said (wasn't he a great man !!)

"never.. in the field of human conflict, has so much been owed, by so many, to so few"

a 'FEW' hundred men changed the whole outcome of the war.....
by no means were they all British, there were Canadians, Australians, Poles(the best squadron in the whole BOB were Poles), Dutch, Americans(all volunteers), French, South Africans, New Zealanders, Checkoslovakians..........and others....they came from all over the globe and suffered appalling losses...

i think Churchill was right, never have so few men made such a massive contribution to such an important war......

Originally posted by dayknight
hahaha it is so funny
they deleted my posts hahaha
TRUTH HURTS eh!

/* Behave yourself. -nv, mod */

yeah right......see what i mean about kids !!!
when youve read more than 50 books on the subject, spent hours on the internet, spoken to loads of veterans(inc own grandparents and friends grandparents), watched countless documentories, studied WW2 for more than 20 years..as i have...
then you will have a sensible opinion and something to say....

until then, just concentrate on you're programming, ********** and squeezing spots...

WW2 joke :

An American soldier, serving in World War II, had just returned from several weeks of intense action on the German front lines. He had finally been granted R&R and was on a train bound for London. The train was very crowded, so the soldier walked the length of the train, looking for an empty seat. The only unoccupied seat was directly adjacent to a well-dressed middle-aged lady and was being used by her little dog. The war weary soldier asked, "Please, ma'am, may I sit in that seat?"
The English woman looked down her nose at the soldier, sniffed and said, "You Americans. You are such a rude class of people. Can't you see my little Fifi is using that seat?"
The soldier walked away, determined to find a place to rest, but after another trip down to the end of the train, found himself again facing the woman with the dog.
Again he asked, "Please, lady. May I sit there? I'm very tired."
The English woman wrinkled her nose and snorted, "You Americans! Not only are you rude, you are also arrogant. Imagine!"
The soldier didn't say anything else; he leaned over, picked up the little dog, tossed it out the window of the train and sat down in the empty seat.
The woman shrieked and railed, and demanded that someone defend her and chastise the soldier.
An English gentleman sitting across the aisle spoke up, "You know, sir, you Americans do seem to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You eat holding the fork in the wrong hand. You drive your cars on the wrong side of the road. And now, sir, you've thrown the wrong b.itch out the window."