Political Views

**shtarker** · 03-12-2002

>>okay, i will try to be nicer xterria.

Why bother? He's practically asking for a nuclear war. Developing nuclear weapons is the stupidest thing imaginable, especially at this point in history.

**gnu-ehacks** · 03-12-2002

So if we are nuked, we just sit around?

**Deckard** · 03-13-2002

Originally posted by tim545666
Democracy sucks because most people are stupid.

Democracy sucks because the power doesn't really lie with the people. The only things we get to vote for are political office and local referendums (not the nationwide issues that affect us the most).

Our style of government was undoubtedly useful when a letter took weeks to get from the east coast to the west coast (and then a few more weeks for the response to arrive). I would welcome a constitutional change that replaced (or severly curtailed the power of) the legislative branch and replaced it with annual or semi-annual nationwide voting.

There would be a number of issues to work out, such as who gets to pick which bills are voted on and how to handle 'emergency topics' that shouldn't wait for the next (semi) annual vote.

**Dalren** · 03-13-2002

Other, The republicans are to authoritarian, the gov't doesnt have any right to control my actions that dont harm others. The democrats, are to socialist/communist in their economic policies, the money i earn should not go to those who dont make much.

Communism is the root of evil, the idea that what i produce should go to others who produce nothing, is simply wrong. Read anything by ayn rand, if your still socialist after that well then nothing can help you.

**Brian** · 03-13-2002

Originally posted by gnu-ehacks
So if we are nuked, we just sit around?

Why? What should we do? Shooting back would be killing hundreds of innocents, and would also be sinking to their level.

Revenge is not good.

**Xterria** · 03-13-2002

I never said that we should make more nukes, i said a nuclear defense. We have more than 10 other countrys who would nuke us if they had the chance. like libya and iraq, who already have nukes...

**-KEN-** · 03-13-2002

>>Communism is the root of evil, the idea that what i produce should go to others who produce nothing, is simply wrong. Read anything by ayn rand, if your still socialist after that well then nothing can help you.<<

Argx, do you actually know anything of communism? I'm not really pro-communism, but it's surely utopian in its ideals. Everyone (read: everyone) works hard, and the money is divided evenly among the people. It's truly a shame that we're too greedy to have it ever work.

**Barjor** · 03-13-2002

Originally posted by Xterria

I'm republican and proud

That fits so well with your image as a spolied overprotected brat.

**incognito** · 03-13-2002

Communism is perfect in theory but it has yet to be proven to work. I think, my personal opinion and I am certain that others agree with me, the problem with communism is incentive. If there was some kind of incentive in communism people would work harder and better. If you work your ass off, and the guy next door to you does a half assed job, and you still get the same benefits.....you might think "hey what the heck, why not do the same thing he's doing, I would still get the same benefits."

**incognito** · 03-13-2002

Note: I would rather stick to Democracy......this has been proven to work. Rule by the people......pretty cool if you ask me.

**Barjor** · 03-13-2002

Comunism is great on paper but the theory is beaten by the fact that humans are born to be as lazy as possible. Really to bad

**incognito** · 03-13-2002

...that humans are born to be as lazy as possible.

Not necessarily true, you're generalizing.

**Barjor** · 03-13-2002

O yes I do..Makes the debate easier

**gnu-ehacks** · 03-13-2002

You know, technically, America is a Republic...Not a Democracy.

**Dalren** · 03-13-2002

Yes i do know something of communism, I have even read the communist manifesto.

Originally posted by -Ken-
Everyone (read: everyone) works hard, and the money is divided evenly among the people.

This is exactly what I am against. Why should what I earn/produce (money, food, etc...) be divided amongst everyone else. If I perfect cold fusion, or propetual motion, why should I only get as much as someone who is only qualified to serve food at mcdonalds. The marxist idea that people should be paid by need rather than ability, is to put it simply, evil. If wanting to keep what I earn, or produce, makes me a greedy materialst, well than Im a greedy materialist.

As I was proof-reading this I decided i should justify my calling communism evil. A governments first duty is to protect the natural rights of its citizens, this is its key moral obligation. Look at the societies we call immoral, more often than not it is because of terrible human rights violations. Communism fails to uphold the natrual right to property. In communism the government takes all the property through the governments monopoly on force. Therefore Communism is immoral, as it fails to uphold the natural rights of its citizens.