Thread: Swedish Pirate (as in, comp) Party wins seats in Brussels!

Hey look at this:

Pirate Party Wins and Enters The European Parliament | TorrentFreak

a little quote:

At least partially, The Pirate Party puts its increased popularity down to harsh copyright laws and the recent conviction of the people behind The Pirate Bay. After the Pirate Bay verdict, Pirate Party membership more than tripled and they now have over 48,000 registered members, more than the total number of votes they received in 2006.

With their presence in Brussels, the Pirate Party hopes to reduce the abuses of power and copyright at the hands of the entertainment industries, and make those activities illegal instead. On the other hand they hope to legalize file-sharing for personal use.

I think I just creamed my pants

I just hope they do something good without breaking world order.
Another fine example on why we shouldn't vote on parties, but rather on what we wish to see accomplished, and then see the parties try to make it happen. Now THAT is democracy.

Originally Posted by Elysia

I just hope they do something good without breaking world order.

why so picky?

Originally Posted by whiteflags

Don't you do that when you vote anyway? The whole point of the party system is the idea of a platform.

No, it isn't.
For example, the pirate party - they want to lessen copyright rules, yet who says they won't make it legal to upload copyrighted stuff so others can download - on purpose?
I don't agree with that.

Furthermore, why do I have to choose between a subset of things I would like to see?
Like part A does stuff A and party B does stuff B. Which one should I vote on? Why should I have to prioritize?
And what if some of their views differ from mine?

I don't like the system. Not one bit.
I don't want to find out what the parties want, say or does, and dislike.
I know what I want and dislike and I want to vote on THAT.

This is exactly why I don't vote on anything.

Originally Posted by Elysia

And what if some of their views differ from mine?

The point would be to have parties so focused you either agree with them or you don't

Originally Posted by Elysia

No, it isn't.
For example, the pirate party - they want to lessen copyright rules, yet who says they won't make it legal to upload copyrighted stuff so others can download - on purpose?

Wouldn't "making it legal" be to "lessen copyright rules"? There is no contradiction there...

They don't call themselves pirates for nothing...

This could set a precedent.

The Retire 2 Years Earlier Party or 35 Hour Work Week Party would probably win 100% of votes.

And what if I partly agree with their views and partly not?

Then they're not focused enough, and you should tell them that

Should they focus on a mere question? Or one mere view?
Let's face it - it just isn't feasible.
If they focus on just one question - that's too little! I won't get my views known.
If they focus on more than one question - then someone is going to disagree with their views and have to choose to vote on them or not, and by doing so, they are basically sending a message that everything that party wants is right, or is at least what YOU want.
This system is flawed; it simply cannot please enough people.

If you were allowed to simply vote on what YOU thought what important (and not vote on something you don't find important), you'll see that you can please a whole lot more people.

Originally Posted by MK27

Wouldn't "making it legal" be to "lessen copyright rules"? There is no contradiction there...

I mean they could try to make it legal to make backups of your own media (DVDs, CDs, etc), but they should NOT make it legal to crack a game and upload it for the rest of the world to download.

Originally Posted by Elysia

If they focus on just one question - that's too little! I won't get my views known.

as apposed to voting for people you disagree with because you have no better options?

Originally Posted by Elysia

they should NOT make it legal to crack a game and upload it for the rest of the world to download.

Yes they should. It clearly says "Pirate Party" on the box. They even wave the Jolly Roger.

I hope they give some voice to the concerns of their Somali counter-parts, too.