Thread: Should it be legalized - Part Deux

Although, if you don't mind me asking: who says they DO register everyone who's there and not hide some people?

Yes and just like people who harbour people to work for them without paying taxes can get raids by a task force to search for them...

Example:
I take a car and drive it around a bit without license, who will know ? No one unless someone stops me and asks for my drivers license.
Legalizing and controlling by setting up task forces and conduct regular searches/raids go hand in hand.

However, I do believe that much of Amesterdam's appeal is a gimmick. There are not many places in the world that offer similar laws and because of that, they get a lot of tourism. In truth, I'm sure Amsterdam would hate it if the US legalized prostitution as they would probably take a major hit on their own tourism.

I didnt even knew Amsterdam had such an appeal, to me its just another capital in another country. There are enough places in this world where you can do whatever you want and get away with it by using the correct leverage (read bribe), the only difference is that in the Netherlands they are using common sense.
You cannot wipe out corruption , underground activities etc if the soil where it can grow is enough potent to sustain it. And clearing that ground of its potency is exactly what they do over there.

Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom

Really? You mean the dozens of movies that reference the desire to visit Amsterdam for the prostitution and marijuana didn't clue you in?

I appreciate your arguments and I agree that Amsterdam has done some things correctly to clear the ground of its potency, as you put it. However, the factors that lead to marijuana use and the factors that lead to prostitution are very different. One is fairly innoncent (simple curiousity) and the other is not (desperation). Prostitution your body is led by the same factors that lead someone to rob a store. A desire for money at the risks of what I listed above. Taking away the potential that you may be arrested will not destroy the risk in being a prostitute. It will still be a job only for those desperate enough to accept the risks and as such it will remain in majority under ground with "the wrong crowd."

There is nothing wrong with someone enjoying the company of someone and willing to pay for it... it's human nature to want companionship. I'm not throwing you in the wrong crowd if you enjoy this... but the fact is, among those who do enjoy this... you're attracting almost anyone and everyone willing to violate the morals and respect of these women.

As for the movies to be honest I have only seen one or two that talk about it, but like I said , you can easily replace Amsterdam with any place you like (Ill give you one since I know the situation there first hand: Lagos - Nigeria). Only difference is that in those other places those things are illegal but like said with the right leverage it makes it perfectly legal to do so (or at least it appears to be legal, thus lowering the step you have to take).

You are right about the risks involved with prostitution. But if I would need to choose with which prostitute I would do anything. Ill go for the legalised one, reason: much higher standards all around probably...

Compare an escort service that also offers sex as the cherry on top of the pie or a regular prostitute dwelling the streets ... Ill know which one to pick.

So be legalizing you raise standards and expectations, so the illegal ones will be getting less attraction, therefore making it less appealing to work in the underground community, since indeed the incentive for all this is money.

Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom

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But that's where you're wrong. It will certainly make it less appealing to the above-ground commmunity and the people who can afford escorts... but for your guys that would rather not pay that much and just want a quickie... they'll settle for the illegal girls. And trust me... there is a large community of people that will not want to dish out the extra cash.

And then they risk what they risk now - potential disease, violence, etc. Their choice.

Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom

Really? You mean the dozens of movies that reference the desire to visit Amsterdam for the prostitution and marijuana didn't clue you in?

You keep citing television and movies. You know how many TV shows and movies say there are aliens among us?

Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom

You're right... the idea that thousands of American and European college students visit Amsterdam every year for the reasons listed are nothing but a fictional conspiracy theory used in Hollywood for its entertainment value.

Good call.

I'm saying that citing vague references to movies and TV shows, and now unfounded statistics, isn't very compelling. Can you cite these statistics? Have you been there?

Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom

To start with your last question, yes. For the second to last question... I get absolutely nothing out of convincing you of anything in this debate. We're on the internet and I'm more busy than my recently series of posts have made it appear. I'm not going to do your homework for you... everything I've said here can be supported by facts. If you really care, feel free to look them up. If you don't and choose to ignore them, I really could care less...

Sorry, but that's a weak, lazy argument. You can't blurt out numbers and then say "look them up". Well, you can, but it doesn't hold much water.