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    Prayers to Burma

    Hard to fathom that they are turning away aid workers, and that governments like this still exist in the world

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1143691.ece

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    No government rules without the compliance of its people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    No government rules without the compliance of its people.
    Unfortunately, many are and have been forced to "comply" through brutal oppression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medievalelks View Post
    Unfortunately, many are and have been forced to "comply" through brutal oppression.
    The meek shall inherit the grave.

    None of us is as strong as all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    The meek shall inherit the grave.

    None of us is as strong as all of us.
    Those are nice sayings, but people in countries like N. Korea, China, Iran, etc. don't have the freedom of speech and organization that others do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    No government rules without the compliance of its people.
    There's some abstract truth in that statement, but its easy for you to say that... and not so easy for those in complience...

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    Myanmar ambassador to the UN has apparently stated today those visas will be granted, after all.

    The nation-wide constitutional referendum is not going to be postponed though and will take place tomorrow. Shameful. The affected areas will indeed cast their ballots later... but when? Well, in 15 days!

    Military Juntas are powerful forms of regime that opress their population and stop most, if not all, forms of opposition. Overthrowing these regimes is very hard and in no way is an indicator of the weakness of the population or their willingness to accept the opression.

    In fact last September, fully aware some would die, some would be imprisoned without any hope of defending themselves, and many would be crudely beaten, monks, nuns and the population in general marched the streets in protest and revolt against the regime and in defense of Democracy.

    That's meek?
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    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Yes meek. They spoke boastfully but forgot to take a big stick to back those words up. Obviously the govt forces in that country value their freedom more than the populace values its freedom.

    Freedom comes from the barrel of a gun.

    Political power is a measure of your willingness to kill those that oppose you.


    Look, I know everyone thinks protest adn peaceful demonstrations cna change thign but they cant. All they do is get your picture on the television. If you REALLY want to change things you have to kill the people that oppose you, or at least intimidate them into ceasing to oppose you. Particularly when dealign with people that are conditioned to killing all that oppose them, you can use no lesser means to sway them. Half measures will only diminish your resources and serve to strengthen their resolve. If that cold hard reality doesn't sit well with you, then tough.



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    If you REALLY want to change things you have to kill the people that oppose you, or at least intimidate them into ceasing to oppose you. Particularly when dealign with people that are conditioned to killing all that oppose them, you can use no lesser means to sway them.
    If this kind of stupidity were to have been eternally perpetuated than civilized society would never have emerged. Yes, there are still plenty of savages left on earth, but it does not mean to say that they cannot change. If you beleive that you cannot overcome your conditioning then you are a slave to it.

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    You are clearly too unexperienced to speak of these things, abachler. In your lifetime you never experienced one situation of political oppression.

    But I'll let you know that you have figured out what humanity has not found in these hundreds of thousands of years; The way to avoid tyranny is to pick up on weapons. Congratulations. Outstanding!
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Freedom comes from the barrel of a gun.
    Spoken like a true American!
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    You can thank the American attitude that the whole world doesnt speak German or Japanese. You may hate us now, but you thank us that you have that freedom. But of course the european mentaility has always been, what have you done for me lately. For a civilization [sic] that has such a logn history, europeans sure are short sighted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    You can thank the American attitude that the whole world doesnt speak German or Japanese. You may hate us now, but you thank us that you have that freedom. But of course the european mentaility has always been, what have you done for me lately. For a civilization [sic] that has such a logn history, europeans sure are short sighted.
    ...I'd like to apoligize for this gentleman, on behalf of the rest of us living in the United States. I swear, not all of us have our heads inserted directly up our rear ends.

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    I find it appalling that in the twenty-first century we're still willing to resolve our differences by shooting and lopping each other's heads off. I'm way, way too old to fight in a war, though many here may have to endure that horror and misery before their lives' are out.

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