Pigs have an average IQ of 65? I find that hard to believe. The pig tests are surely biased... when was the last time you took an IQ test with a question that a pig could answer?Originally Posted by abachler
Pigs have an average IQ of 65? I find that hard to believe. The pig tests are surely biased... when was the last time you took an IQ test with a question that a pig could answer?
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It's been a while since I read about this, but if I remember correctly, IQs lower than about 70 imply basically no language ability. The whole concept of IQ as a ratio between your mental age and your physical age is bogus, but yes, it's theoretically possible to define the IQ of a pig, or a dog or some other animal, through a series of problem-solving tests.
If I remember, your typical dog (or pig, which is pretty close) has an intelligence level approximate to a 2 year old human, of course without the language ability.
See, that's where I find it hard to believe... because the popular animal IQ trivia that I know always stated that a Chimp (which is the second most intelligent animal next to human) has an IQ equivilent to a 3-4 year old. I'm pretty sure a chimp is significantly smarter than a pig.
Secondly... the definition of mental retardation is an IQ below 70 (I believe *no* language ability is significantly closer to 15-25 IQ). This would imply that a pig is nearly as intelligent (some likely more so, if 65 is the average) as anyone that is diagnosed as mentally retarded. I had an uncle who was mentally retarded and he was significantly more intelligent than any pig I've come across.
Last edited by SlyMaelstrom; 04-10-2008 at 12:37 PM.
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Sure -- but a 4 year old is significantly smarter than 2 year old, as well.
Well like I said, the whole concept is sort of bogus anyway.Secondly... the definition of mental retardation is an IQ below 70. This would imply that a pig is nearly as intelligent (some likely more so, if 65 is the average) as anyone that is diagnosed as mentally retarded. I had an uncle who was mentally retarded and he was significantly more intelligent than any pig I've come across.
Only the concept of correctly measuring an animal's IQ, in my opinion. As far as human IQ, I'd say it's a fairly accurate measure if conducted properly. The problem these days is all the websites that offer these dumbed-down, short, inaccurate IQ tests that they allow users to take several times over again.
Last internet IQ test I took I got a 165... I have no problem putting doubts into the accuracy of that.
Last edited by SlyMaelstrom; 04-10-2008 at 12:46 PM.
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I agree the online tests are bogus. A correctly done test takes at least an hour, usually more. If you only take the online test once, it is accurate in that people that tend to score higher on it would also tend to score higher on IQ tests, but it certainly doesnt tell you your IQ.
If you realyl want an accurate guage of your intelligence, take this test -
Pigs are smarter than republicans
Last edited by abachler; 04-10-2008 at 01:11 PM.
Exactly how many pigs have you come across? How many of them have you tested in a labratory environment with double blind controls? Or are you just suggesting that thousands of cognitive scientists are falsifying their results because you don't like what you percieve them as implying?
They usually use the Turing test, and normalize. Obviously it is possible that pigs excell at the particular cognitive domain tessted relative to a more globally comprehensive test, but since the CD tested is generalyl problem solving ability, the same CD elected for entry into MENSA, I think Ill have to go ahead and agree with the results.
Last edited by abachler; 04-10-2008 at 12:33 PM.
Yes, I understand there is a simplified way to judge the IQ of an animal... I was kidding about a pig taking a human IQ test.
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