Generel Vista Questions?

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12-01-2006
code2d

Generel Vista Questions?

I'm am new to cprogramming.com but I have been studying c++ for about one year. I have some questions mostly about everthing based around Windows Vista. Some of the questions may seem very stupid, I give you fair warning.

1. Will windows Vista API applications only run on .net framework (winfx).

2. (If they exist) Were are the windows vista sdk's located.

3. I have the visual c++ 2005 .net express compiler. Can this compiler create windows vista API based programmes.

4. I have the book "Introducing Microsoft WinFX: The Application Programming Interface for the Next Generation of Microsoft Windows" published 2004 . Is this a book of good reference for vista or is there a better one that exists .

5. Are .net applications very unefficient (both .net framework programs I have used run very poor on resources)
12-02-2006
VirtualAce

1. Most certainly.
2. www.msdn.com if they have been released , which if you are a subscriber...it has been released.
3. Yes
4. Dunno.
5. Well...yes b/c of the memory management scheme employed.
12-02-2006
Devil Panther

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Originally Posted by Bubba

1. Most certainly.
2. www.msdn.com if they have been released , which if you are a subscriber...it has been released.
3. Yes
4. Dunno.
5. Well...yes b/c of the memory management scheme employed.

Wait... are you saying that the only API to be available on Vista is through .NET ?
12-02-2006
bithub

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Wait... are you saying that the only API to be available on Vista is through .NET ?

No, the existing Windows API that has been around since the beginning of Windows will still be there. If this wasn't the case, then 99% of the Windows applications in existence would have to be rewritten.
12-03-2006
Devil Panther

True, but you never know how crazy MS can get :)
12-03-2006
code2d

Devil panther you do have a point.... but I doubt that they will go that far. They are trying to push ".net framework" alot though so how nows... Does anyone have a idea of a book that would be good reference for the API programming in vista....
12-04-2006
Devil Panther

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Originally Posted by code2d

Devil panther you do have a point.... but I doubt that they will go that far. They are trying to push ".net framework" alot though so how nows... Does anyone have a idea of a book that would be good reference for the API programming in vista....

I believe it's alittle too early for a book.
But I would love to see one.
12-04-2006
code2d

I believe that vista runs now of ".net framework 3" and they have inproved "options" restrictions for the admin.... The new api looks great though!!
12-05-2006
Devil Panther

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Originally Posted by code2d

I believe that vista runs now of ".net framework 3" and they have inproved "options" restrictions for the admin.... The new api looks great though!!

Yeah... 6 years of developmet from transparent windows...
But how can I use the new API controllers look in vista?
What will happen to application that are using the XP API controllers look?
12-05-2006
Mad_guy

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Originally Posted by code2d

5. Are .net applications very unefficient (both .net framework programs I have used run very poor on resources)

If you're talking about runtime-wise efficient, they're not terribly slow, more than fast enough in just about every case I've seen, although generally on first or second time runs they seem noticably slow; the gain from using .NET in development time is what makes it worth it though.
12-06-2006
Devil Panther

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Originally Posted by Mad_guy

If you're talking about runtime-wise efficient, they're not terribly slow, more than fast enough in just about every case I've seen, although generally on first or second time runs they seem noticably slow; the gain from using .NET in development time is what makes it worth it though.

Short development time, and a crappy product... A true Microsoft way!
12-06-2006
code2d

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Short development time, and a crappy product... A true Microsoft way!

That is the simple truth.
It seems that geeting documentation on vista will be useless until vista is out.
According to the book I have vista will be using "xaml" which is similer to xml but for creating apps.
12-06-2006
Mad_guy

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Short development time, and a crappy product... A true Microsoft way!

If you're joking, then you suck at it.
If you're serious and talking about .NET in reference to that, then I get the subtle feeling you have no idea what you're talking about, or you just choose not to think about what I said logically.