Abnormal Program Termination when executed from C:\Program Files\...

This is a discussion on Abnormal Program Termination when executed from C:\Program Files\... within the Windows Programming forums, part of the Platform Specific Boards category; Originally Posted by Salem I prefer this - http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtoo...g/default.mspx You can run and debug the program wherever it is, and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    I prefer this - http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtoo...g/default.mspx
    You can run and debug the program wherever it is, and not just inside your project.

    Plus, there's lots of "power user" features in windbg.
    thanks. i'll give it a shot.

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    Visual Studio also contains a very powerful, and if not easier, debugger.
    You can get it for free at http://www.microsoft.com/Express/.
    But you should try out for yourself if it's to your liking. No sense in using something that you don't like.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    do i have to install the compile the app from source code to use it?

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    Yes, you would have to installing the IDE, then compile your source.
    I'm not sure if or how you can debug apps with windbg with source code information. I'm not sure how that works and what compilers can produce the correct debug information...
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    compiling from source is not a viable option in the long term.

    i don't know how windbg works either, as obviously i'm not familiar with it yet.

    i expect it will not work 100% until i switch to MSVC++ since i use BCB, but it's better than nothing.

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    The debugger inside Visual Studio doesn't really require you to compile with the Visual C++ compiler per se... just as windbg, it works fine by attaching to executables.
    However, I know the VS debugger requires program database files (aka debug files) for being able to properly debug (or you'll just get assembly output). Maybe this can be generated from other compilers too, but I don't know for sure.
    Otherwise, VS is not a bad idea and VC++ is not a bad compiler, if you have the option to switch and try it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    i would love to, but unfortunately i don't have that option as i don't have the available time to do the port

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    "Do the port"? I don't understand what you mean by that, but...
    You do realize that standards compliant code will compile in any compliant compiler, yes?
    Anyway, I'm going to trust you have your reasons. Unfortunately, the rest of how to make it work is beyond my knowledge.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    i've made extensive use of features that i believe are specific to BCB, namely their GUI components.

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    Well isn't that just more or less their version of MFC? I am not qualified to answer that question on my own since I do not have a PhD in proprietary useless libraries. Which also means I am not welcome to work at Microsoft. Its listed as one of their basic requirements.

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    WinDbg has a very good help file.

    Use it to run the program in it's current location, then just let it catch the exception when it crashes.
    Then go looking to see where the problem is.

    If you compile the project in visual studio, so that it also outputs a .pdb file, then you should have full source code as well.
    If you dance barefoot on the broken glass of undefined behaviour, you've got to expect the occasional cut.
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    He says his code cannot be easily moved over to VC++. I bet it may be easier than he suggests.

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    i'm pretty sure it's this now:


    nm false hope
    Last edited by m37h0d; 09-19-2008 at 09:44 AM.

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    OH!

    i omitted a critical detail

    this only happens on a certain computer setup - they're a celeron Ms with XP embedded IIRC.

    doesn't happen on my development PC.

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    Make sure that the account your application is running under can write to %ProgramFiles%, because normally, an application SHOULD NOT write to it's install directory. %ProgramFiles% could be write protected in your execution environment.

    Use SHGetFolderPath to find a folder suitable for writing data. APPDATA or LOCAL_APPDATA comes to mind.
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