Damn ATI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AloneInTheDark View Post
    Well, as Bill Gates said, it could have been more "polished" for sure!
    This would be the quote of the year, mate.

    You gotta be joking.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    This would be the quote of the year, mate.

    You gotta be joking.
    No I'm not. Check his last talk when he left Microsoft. It's on Youtube. He did not mention "Vista" but he did said that line without Vista in it. and we all know he meant Vista!

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    Yes. I got your meaning before. I was imagining what if that had actually been said about Vista.

    You may be happy. Up to you, whatever (I'm not going to debate Vista anymore). But the vast majority of the power users is not.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    Yes. I got your meaning before. I was imagining what if that had actually been said about Vista.

    You may be happy. Up to you, whatever (I'm not going to debate Vista anymore). But the vast majority of the power users is not.
    yeah, darn it ATI thread turned into Vista talk

    Regarding the majority... the majority of people believed the Earth was flat Majority is not necessarily correct...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AloneInTheDark View Post
    I think they done a good job trying to keep most of the legacy software functional.
    ...I don't think so.
    For comparison, Wine runs Windows software with less issues than Vista. That says something. A lot, actually.
    Sorry, no. I don't think that argument is going to hold.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    ...I don't think so.
    For comparison, Wine runs Windows software with less issues than Vista. That says something. A lot, actually.
    Sorry, no. I don't think that argument is going to hold.
    Legacy software running legacy software. Where is the news?

    Vista DID indeed broke some legacy apps.

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    It turned into a Vista talk because Microsoft has its share of responsibility, wether you like it or not, when it certifies a driver that doesn't work or has serious bugs that BSOD or otherwise kill the OS.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    It means that even a program that reverse engineers and wraps Win32 API to Linux API can run Windows software better than Vista which has the full, unemulated and unwrapped API built-in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.
    For information on how to enable C++11 on your compiler, look here.
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    As for your legacy software, as most DOS software broke on win95, some software break on Vista.
    Sorry, this statement is just ignorant. The move from DOS to Win95 brought with it an architecture move. A move from 16 bits to 32 bits. A move from real mode to protected mode. Oh, and a move from taking over the graphics card for yourself to sharing it with everything else. (But this was already present in Win16 apps, so it doesn't really count.)
    The move from XP to Vista involves ... involves ... uh ...
    Well, there's the access rights thing. I suppose that's one compatibility problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornedBee View Post
    Sorry, this statement is just ignorant...
    No...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AloneInTheDark View Post
    well, there you have it. It isn't Microsoft but the ones who build HD and BlueRay drives. The content makes force DRM on you my friend.
    It's not my fault I'm stabbing you. He told me to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robwhit View Post
    It's not my fault I'm stabbing you. He told me to do it.
    *aaah!*
    *pulls the knife out slowly*
    *whispers:da..aamn..y..oou...*
    *falls into ground in a pool of blood*


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    All the buzzt!
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    Whoa, CornedBee! I didn't know of that. This looks like one gigantic shot on their foot. More like a cannon ball. I checked the slides as the information is said to be the current one.

    I've been wondering since last summer if this isn't the time for me to move to linux once and for all. I mean, I'm no longer being pressed by career decisions, as I removed myself from that. Besides linux has become increasingly appealing over the years. It's more geekish too.

    Won't leave windows though. I feel culturally attached to it. Been my life since DOS. But I've definitely been feeling more willing to move on and leave windows as a secondary OS.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Yes. But the primary reason I posted it was because of this statement:
    Quote Originally Posted by AloneInTheDark
    It isn't Microsoft but the ones who build HD and BlueRay drives. The content makes force DRM on you my friend.
    The Final Thoughts part of the article leads me to disagree with this.
    All the buzzt!
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