Problems with Firefox

So, I have been having some problems with Firefox lately.

Whenever I try to download anything, be it an image, video, installer, or any other file, Firefox takes a good 10 seconds to spawn and initiate the download.

It is strictly specific to Firefox...downloads start instantly in IE and Safari.
It is also specific to my computer...When I use other computers Firefox starts downloads instantly just like the other browsers.

Has anyone else experienced this problem, or know what could be causing it?

For some odd reason, something is delaying the thread that handles downloads from executing....

It also happens to me, on Linux and Windows -- it didn't happen a while ago, perhaps it's a new bug introduced in the later versions. Doesn't concern me much, I use Opera 99% of the time. Perhaps look through the firefox bug reports? Or get an older version of Firefox and see if it happens.

Also try looking through the config, by typing "about:config" (in the address bar) -- mainly the "browser.download" CVARs.

Well i got the same problem with my IE, i open up IE its takes up to 5 sec before i can get my home page. But it was fine before i updated my windows. This is carp. It was so nice before when u double click on IE i get my google page instanly with out even waiting so long. does any one else have the same problem.

ssharish

Don't download automatic updates :D They mess up your computer!

Sure, don't download essential security updates. They'll just decrease your chance of getting spyware and other junk -- nothing vitally important or anything. :rolleyes: :p

They don't increase security and they degrade the system!
Haven't had a single problem with virus, spyware of attacks on my unpatched XP SP2 system.
So yeah....

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Originally Posted by dwks

Sure, don't download essential security updates. They'll just decrease your chance of getting spyware and other junk -- nothing vitally important or anything. :rolleyes: :p

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What if Toyota or Ford or somebody came out in the middle of the night and "updated" your vehicle? Sure, they might be making safety improvements but I'd kinda like to know exactly what they are doing before they do it.

Updates are essential, and automatic downloading of updates is a great feature. But I still want to clicky on the magic button myself rather than let the OS do it. If I worry that a particular update might bork my system at least I have a chance to back things up first.

I think I misread Elysia's post to mean, "don't download updates!", whereas I'm pretty sure "don't enable automatic updates!" was intended. My apologies.

Really?
I haven't downloaded a single update from Microsoft on this system. I disable Automatic Updates and I never download a single update. Ever.
All they do is cause problems. I do NOT recommend downloading bloated updates from Microsoft that seem to fix nothing but make the computer worse than before.
Only Service Packs are good.

No need for apologies. You guessed correct.

Hmm, well, I don't know about Microsoft's updates. I've encountered several problems with them, and even with SP2.

But Linux updates, and Firefox ones . . . I like to think they're doing something. :) At any rate, they rarely cause problems, or not serious ones anyway. Fortunately, it's a bit easier to downgrade programs in Debian at least.

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Hmm, well, I don't know about Microsoft's updates. I've encountered several problems with them, and even with SP2.

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I'm not surprised! We're talking about Microsoft here, after all! A company whose quality standards are far below the rest of the sector's quality standards.

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But Linux updates, and Firefox ones . . . I like to think they're doing something. :) At any rate, they rarely cause problems, or not serious ones anyway. Fortunately, it's a bit easier to downgrade programs in Debian at least.

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Yes, Firefox updates has never caused problems.

Never had an issue with keeping windows up to date... And just so you know SPs are just that, Service *PACKS* packs of all those updates you skipped over the last couple years. I am more afraid of SP3 though than I am of any singular update, since they are going to add/backport some stuff to XP.

Yeah, I know what service packs are. But they're far more stable (especially if you slip stream them!) rather than if you add all the updates manually.
Looking forward to SP3.

On another note, most of my problem with firefox went away when I downloaded Firefox 3 beta 2, it is very nice! Way smaller memory footprint so far too.

When I tried out Firefox 3, it erased all Firefox 2 settings. Yay. Lucky I have backups. Plus 95% of all my extensions doesn't work with it. And it still has a few rendering bugs that FF2 didn't.
Hope they fix it...

I don't use any extensions right now, and the loss of settings was annoying for about 10 mins, until I got them all set back right. I haven't noticed any rendering differences yet, but I haven't been looking too closely,

http://www.eluni.net/
IIRC, web site renders incorrectly in FF3 and correctly in FF2 and even better in Opera!

Btw,

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...and the loss of settings was annoying for about 10 mins, until I got them all set back right...

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Even disregarding the settings, I can't stand to lose all my open 20 tabs that I always keep open :p

Just two glances on this site tell me that I'm not worried about it not being rendered correctly. "Loading layout, please wait"???

Oh, and "Safety & Security" link is broken.

If that's your website, back to the drawing board -- I'd rate it 1/10 for "ease of use".

Otherwise, carry on.

Most people seem to get carried away with useless redundant website "features" and forget about how easy it is to use.

Ohh yes, i have truned off my windows update long before after this crap update, updated my IE. Since then i stopped enjoying my high speed connection. Perhaps i tried removing those updates from add/remove programs, no luck i still face the same problem. Its just not the IE, my system suffering bottle neck with all my network application.

I think it something on security update which is playing around, but i dunno which update it is, so that i can remove it.

But everything is fine on my Linux machine, love Linux :)

ssharish

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Originally Posted by CornedBee

Just two glances on this site tell me that I'm not worried about it not being rendered correctly. "Loading layout, please wait"???

Oh, and "Safety & Security" link is broken.

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That's kind of because it's just a test I uploaded to have something to show when I had trouble with the coding.

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Originally Posted by zacs7

If that's your website, back to the drawing board -- I'd rate it 1/10 for "ease of use".

Otherwise, carry on.

Most people seem to get carried away with useless redundant website "features" and forget about how easy it is to use.

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Maybe you could elaborate, because I do so love to suck in complaints and learning from them.

Sure, and I don't mean to offend -- I'm just calling it like I see it.

* The user doesn't really care if your website is compatible -- you should do everything in your power to make it so, if the "Futured font" doesn't work in FF2 then don't use it. See http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

* Your website should be totally dependent of resolution, especially with all the mobile devices on the internet today running at 200x200 for example.

* I think you over use images, I like to highlight text (ie images of text are annoying)

* The nav menu on the right looks like you've gone into paint and doodled.

* The user doesn't need to know the progress of loading it's already in the progress bar. On really slow connections they also might want to be reading your page while it loads.

BTW, If you're documenting a library thing, why not get doxygen to do it for you? :)

That's my opinion, I hope no-one flames me for having it like that :)

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Originally Posted by zacs7

That's my opinion, I hope no-one flames me for having it like that :)

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Not a problem. I'll explain to you a few things.

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BTW, If you're documenting a library thing, why not get doxygen to do it for you? :)

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I had to do a website and I couldn't come with any ideas other than this, so... I had to make a website or otherwise I can't get a graduate from the course, of course :p

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Originally Posted by zacs7

* The user doesn't really care if your website is compatible -- you should do everything in your power to make it so, if the "Futured font" doesn't work in FF2 then don't use it. See http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

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I agree with the campaign, but the error in FF2 is not severe and I will not toss away the font just because there's a bug in FF2. My goal is, of course, to make it render properly in all browsers (except for Microsoft Internet Explorer(TM)). IE simply doesn't follow standards and thus it's ruled out.
And thank the star I can do do that, because this is an individual web site not aimed at a company. No boon for Microsoft.

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Originally Posted by zacs7

* Your website should be totally dependent of resolution, especially with all the mobile devices on the internet today running at 200x200 for example.

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Mobile devices can eat my lunch ;)
I dislike the idea that mobile devices should browse internet and I really wanted to use higher resolution, too, because there's so little content that fits with such low resolution. I tried to make it a little better (ie to fit in lower resolutions), but there's just no easy way. I wanted to make the text wrap as much as possible, depending on resolution, so it can be viewable on 1024x768, but no go. That messes everything up on higher resolutions.

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Originally Posted by zacs7

* I think you over use images, I like to highlight text (ie images of text are annoying)

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I like images :p

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* The nav menu on the right looks like you've gone into paint and doodled.

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So why do you think that? Because the overall design is something I've borrowed and I think it looks very nice.

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Originally Posted by zacs7

* The user doesn't need to know the progress of loading it's already in the progress bar. On really slow connections they also might want to be reading your page while it loads.

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Sure they need to know how much is loaded! The progress bar is so poor in all browsers except Opera.
I don't want to show everything before it's loaded. It gives me headache to even use the current system. And thank the stars I can ignore it :D

And it's another reason I actually split the layout and the nav menu into two parts - the layout loads first, then the nav bar.

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Originally Posted by Elysia

I agree with the campaign, but the error in FF2 is not severe and I will not toss away the font just because there's a bug in FF2.

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The problem is that you seem to somehow require this font. Or, well, you claim that the website doesn't work properly without it. I've never heard of it. Does it come pre-installed with Windows? With Office? Where do I, as a Linux user, get it?
You can choose any font you want for your website, of course, but to make the layout so rigid that it can't handle the fallback font is stupid.

Erm, if that's what you think, then perhaps the wording is bit off. The site works fine w/o the font (how many times I have viewed the site in FF2?) but best viewing experience is gained WITH the font. And I do provide a link to where you can get the font too.

What I see is that I get a page that tells me the experience may be off because I don't have the font. I really don't care, though. I don't want this intermediate page. I want to get to the content, not be lectured that my system somehow doesn't support your idea of what the page should look like.

I'm not lecturing anyone. I'm telling you that the site may not look as intended because there are really silly bugs in FF2, and if weren't for those, the site would work fine.

Well, whatever. We're hijacking the thread. The topic was a long delay in bringing up the download manager in Firefox.

You're hijacking with your replies too, but whatever.