Problems with Firefox

This is a discussion on Problems with Firefox within the Tech Board forums, part of the Community Boards category; I don't use any extensions right now, and the loss of settings was annoying for about 10 mins, until I ...

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    I don't use any extensions right now, and the loss of settings was annoying for about 10 mins, until I got them all set back right. I haven't noticed any rendering differences yet, but I haven't been looking too closely,

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    IIRC, web site renders incorrectly in FF3 and correctly in FF2 and even better in Opera!

    Btw,
    ...and the loss of settings was annoying for about 10 mins, until I got them all set back right...
    Even disregarding the settings, I can't stand to lose all my open 20 tabs that I always keep open
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Just two glances on this site tell me that I'm not worried about it not being rendered correctly. "Loading layout, please wait"???

    Oh, and "Safety & Security" link is broken.
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    If that's your website, back to the drawing board -- I'd rate it 1/10 for "ease of use".

    Otherwise, carry on.

    Most people seem to get carried away with useless redundant website "features" and forget about how easy it is to use.

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    Ohh yes, i have truned off my windows update long before after this crap update, updated my IE. Since then i stopped enjoying my high speed connection. Perhaps i tried removing those updates from add/remove programs, no luck i still face the same problem. Its just not the IE, my system suffering bottle neck with all my network application.

    I think it something on security update which is playing around, but i dunno which update it is, so that i can remove it.

    But everything is fine on my Linux machine, love Linux

    ssharish

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    Quote Originally Posted by CornedBee View Post
    Just two glances on this site tell me that I'm not worried about it not being rendered correctly. "Loading layout, please wait"???

    Oh, and "Safety & Security" link is broken.
    That's kind of because it's just a test I uploaded to have something to show when I had trouble with the coding.

    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    If that's your website, back to the drawing board -- I'd rate it 1/10 for "ease of use".

    Otherwise, carry on.

    Most people seem to get carried away with useless redundant website "features" and forget about how easy it is to use.
    Maybe you could elaborate, because I do so love to suck in complaints and learning from them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Sure, and I don't mean to offend -- I'm just calling it like I see it.

    * The user doesn't really care if your website is compatible -- you should do everything in your power to make it so, if the "Futured font" doesn't work in FF2 then don't use it. See http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

    * Your website should be totally dependent of resolution, especially with all the mobile devices on the internet today running at 200x200 for example.

    * I think you over use images, I like to highlight text (ie images of text are annoying)

    * The nav menu on the right looks like you've gone into paint and doodled.

    * The user doesn't need to know the progress of loading it's already in the progress bar. On really slow connections they also might want to be reading your page while it loads.

    BTW, If you're documenting a library thing, why not get doxygen to do it for you?

    That's my opinion, I hope no-one flames me for having it like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    That's my opinion, I hope no-one flames me for having it like that
    Not a problem. I'll explain to you a few things.

    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    BTW, If you're documenting a library thing, why not get doxygen to do it for you?
    I had to do a website and I couldn't come with any ideas other than this, so... I had to make a website or otherwise I can't get a graduate from the course, of course

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    * The user doesn't really care if your website is compatible -- you should do everything in your power to make it so, if the "Futured font" doesn't work in FF2 then don't use it. See http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
    I agree with the campaign, but the error in FF2 is not severe and I will not toss away the font just because there's a bug in FF2. My goal is, of course, to make it render properly in all browsers (except for Microsoft Internet Explorer(TM)). IE simply doesn't follow standards and thus it's ruled out.
    And thank the star I can do do that, because this is an individual web site not aimed at a company. No boon for Microsoft.

    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    * Your website should be totally dependent of resolution, especially with all the mobile devices on the internet today running at 200x200 for example.
    Mobile devices can eat my lunch
    I dislike the idea that mobile devices should browse internet and I really wanted to use higher resolution, too, because there's so little content that fits with such low resolution. I tried to make it a little better (ie to fit in lower resolutions), but there's just no easy way. I wanted to make the text wrap as much as possible, depending on resolution, so it can be viewable on 1024x768, but no go. That messes everything up on higher resolutions.

    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    * I think you over use images, I like to highlight text (ie images of text are annoying)
    I like images

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    * The nav menu on the right looks like you've gone into paint and doodled.
    So why do you think that? Because the overall design is something I've borrowed and I think it looks very nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    * The user doesn't need to know the progress of loading it's already in the progress bar. On really slow connections they also might want to be reading your page while it loads.
    Sure they need to know how much is loaded! The progress bar is so poor in all browsers except Opera.
    I don't want to show everything before it's loaded. It gives me headache to even use the current system. And thank the stars I can ignore it

    And it's another reason I actually split the layout and the nav menu into two parts - the layout loads first, then the nav bar.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    I agree with the campaign, but the error in FF2 is not severe and I will not toss away the font just because there's a bug in FF2.
    The problem is that you seem to somehow require this font. Or, well, you claim that the website doesn't work properly without it. I've never heard of it. Does it come pre-installed with Windows? With Office? Where do I, as a Linux user, get it?
    You can choose any font you want for your website, of course, but to make the layout so rigid that it can't handle the fallback font is stupid.
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    Erm, if that's what you think, then perhaps the wording is bit off. The site works fine w/o the font (how many times I have viewed the site in FF2?) but best viewing experience is gained WITH the font. And I do provide a link to where you can get the font too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    What I see is that I get a page that tells me the experience may be off because I don't have the font. I really don't care, though. I don't want this intermediate page. I want to get to the content, not be lectured that my system somehow doesn't support your idea of what the page should look like.
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    I'm not lecturing anyone. I'm telling you that the site may not look as intended because there are really silly bugs in FF2, and if weren't for those, the site would work fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Well, whatever. We're hijacking the thread. The topic was a long delay in bringing up the download manager in Firefox.
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    You're hijacking with your replies too, but whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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