Browser Problems with new computer

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    Browser Problems with new computer

    We keep having problems with our internet explorer. It keeps showing a "This page can not be displayed" error message. And then when that happenes in internet explorer our msn explorer messes up as well. We have to restart our computer to fix this.

    I do not belive this happens with msn explorer only internet explorer effects msn expoler.

    Thank you again!

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    Not for nothing is it called internet exploder

    You've done the usual virus / adware / spyware scans ?

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    >>We keep having problems with our internet explorer
    1)have you installed SP2 - if IE worked before you did - uninstall it
    2)presumably this is while you try to connect to the internet - can you connect at all
    3)Are there any proxy or firewalls between you and the connection that may be stopping you connecting
    4)Can you ping a machine on the interent and prove traffic is moving
    5)Try Firefox - its better than IE (IMHO)
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    well we have ad/spy wareand virus protection. 3 ad/spy ware proctection and Nortons anti virus fully updated and paid for.

    We can connect, it happens after a while we are on it.

    We do NOT have sp2 installed. We don't like that.


    "5)Try Firefox - its better than IE (IMHO)"

    I like MSN explorer.

    there is the standerd windows firewall protecting our connection but like I said it only happenes once and a while and I see no patteren to what types fo sites it happens on.

    yes we can connect.

    "Not for nothing is it called internet exploder"

    I typed it too much, lol

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    Fire up a command prompt and type the following command:
    Code:
    ping www.thatdomain.com
    where 'thatdomain' is, of course, the page you're trying to reach.
    Post back the results.
    Does this happen for every page you're trying to get to, or just one / a few? If the latter, what sites can you not reach?

    Some adware / spyware gets through some spyware scanners, and some so-called antispyware companies are actually in league with spyware makers, thus those wares are not removed.

    What antispyware software are you using?

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    >>> 5)Try Firefox - its better than IE (IMHO)

    With the hype surrounding the FireFox browser, I downloaded it and tried it for a couple of days before removing it. It simply does not work on todays internet.

    I applaud the idea of building an independent browser that works from the standards. A noble effort.

    Where that kind of idealism falls is when it tries to compete in the real world where many large popular sites do not adhere strictly to the standards. I found myself again and again opening IE to view pages I could not see properly, or at all with FF.

    What the people behind it need to realise is that the majority of users are more interested in the ability of a product to work as they wish it to, rather then the politics behind it.

    At the same time, managers of large sites are not going to invest the considerable amounts of capital required to make their sites conforming, simply so a minority group with a different browser can see their content.

    While they remain committed to their "standards only" position, they will not win over the bulk consumers.

    I made very much the same type of post on their feedback site, their response was to "open IE if you need to see content we can't show", the point being of course, that people are people and they will not try to look at something with FF and then load IE, they will load IE and forget about FF.
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    The reason why many people don't like IE is because it is extremely insecure. Sure, I'm happy with it as a browser per se, it's the security issues and lack of certain functionalities (such as tabbed browsing and the fact that it's only with the advent of SP2 that it has a built-in pop-up blocker) that lets it down.

    One reason why websites fail is that they themselves do hot conform to standards: badly-formed code, proprietary tags, exploits for bugs, failure to declare document type, and so on.

    The other thing is that a lot of malware is written explicitly for IE, simply because it has the largest market share and is so easy for them to exploit, therefore worthwhile.

    But all of this is a digression - Rune Hunter started this thread to get some assistance!

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    I don't really disagree with anything you said Angus. The majority of casual internet users however, do not have problems with IE. As I was suggesting in my post, the majority of the argument against FF is financial not moral.

    If FF ever became a majority player, then I'm sure we'd see malicious code targetting it as well. Even open software can be buggy, I replace my "so secure" Apache server every couple of months because they have closed new security holes.

    >>> But all of this is a digression

    Not really, the OP was offered switching to FF as a fix for his problems - I don't think pointing out some of the potential problems with such an action is off topic.
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    It simply does not work on todays internet.
    Of course it does.
    It might not work as one might wish it to on some parts of the Web, but it definitely works on the Internet.

    I found myself again and again opening IE to view pages I could not see properly, or at all with FF.
    I think this is really a case of your mileage may vary.
    I personally havent had much problem with poorly written sites, while to others it totally kills the web browsing experience.

    While they remain committed to their "standards only" position, they will not win over the bulk consumers.
    Remarkably, the goal of FF is not to win the bulk of consumers, but to be the best while being standards compliant as far as possible.

    Even open software can be buggy, I replace my "so secure" Apache server every couple of months because they have closed new security holes.
    Well, one of the touted advantages of the open source model was the rapid discovery and fixing of bugs, including those pertaining to security.

    Back to the topic proper.
    Any progress so far, Rune Hunter?
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    The majority of casual internet users however, do not have problems with IE. As I was suggesting in my post, the majority of the argument against FF is financial not moral.
    While I'd agree there, unfortunately the minority isn't a small one. Personally, I have no problems with IE but only a few days ago I was looking for a program for someone, and when I tested the first one I found it tried pretty hard to put some malware onto my system. That would have caught the unwary.

    If FF ever became a majority player, then I'm sure we'd see malicious code targetting it as well. Even open software can be buggy, I replace my "so secure" Apache server every couple of months because they have closed new security holes.
    I agree 100%. It's because IE is the most-used browser that it gets more targeted than any other browser. I'm sure FF and other browsers have got serious securoty flaws, but nobody has bothered to discover and explot them - just not worth it.

    >>> But all of this is a digression
    Not really, the OP was offered switching to FF as a fix for his problems
    An entertaining discussion nevertheless and telling someone to sidestep their problem doesn't solve it: it merely works around it.

    Rune Hunter, how are things looking right now? If you do that ping command, then do let us know the domain you're pinging as well as the IP address it reports. A discrepancy could imply a problem with your HOSTS file.

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    I've tried FF, and honestly Opera is farther much better. Opera isn't free, but the downside is only a pub banner.
    About IE.. IE is the best code interpreter there's, but that's also the bad news. Because IE supports ActiveX scripts, and other strange stuff, it is possible to run aplications on a pc with IE, from another one, where the webpage is stored. And IE is part of the windows shell, so any security problems may well be windows' as well.
    When the sasser worm apeared, for a entire week I didn't had any problem, because I only use Opera... Then from some reason (windows update, I think), I used IE.. bang! the worm showed up...

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    ANYWAYS...

    you haven't given us the results of your ping.

    also, are you behind a router (ie: high speed internet) or are you on dialup? If you're on high speed, try repairing the network connection instead of rebooting (right click, repair). If that works there's a configuration problem with the router.
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