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    I am in the process of making a site, but I was wondering.

    Since my host allows stuff like php and all kinds of crap like that..

    Should I go into learning this stuff or just stick with html/css.. and maybe some javascript?

    I was just wondering if any of you knew of any good resource sites for these different languages and the pros and cons of them.

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    >Should I go into learning this stuff or just stick with html/css.. and maybe some javascript?
    It really depends on what you want to get out of your web site.
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    Well I wasnt really planning on anything fancy.

    I would like a decent looking site.

    I was thinking about going into things like, maybe being able to log in and post a news entry like Ive seen other sites do. Or maybe a small forum, for Q/A.

    The problem is I dont how to do that stuff. So basically, would it be worth learning how to do these things if thats all Im wnating to do, or should I just forget about those things and just keep a simple layout.

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    If you're considering a forum or logins or anything then go ahead and learn php. It's easy, syntax is similar to C++. I'ts worth learning anyway so you might as well go ahead and tinker with it. If you need any help I believe Ober and I are the resident PHP geeks here.
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    With only html/css you'll get static pages, add some php and you'll get dynamic pages and will be easier to maintain (in most cases). If you want to post news entries or set up a forum, you want to just install available Content Managament System (CMS) or Weblog or forum board software like phpBB. They come with installation instructions so just follow them. At some point you want to personalize that software and you have to look into the source code. That's when you'll accidently learn php.
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    Currently PHP is my favoriate language. Its easy to use, syntax is pretty stright forward, can do most of the high level programming tricks, and it allows you to use HTML whenever you want.

    A word of advise: Follow the w3.org standard as much as possible. It will help you greatly in making a page that looks the same in most browsers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thantos
    It will help you greatly in making a page that looks the same in most browsers
    Another input, CSS is way so much easier to implement the style and layout of a web page, well supposely. The same CSS statement could give different result in different intenet browser. I would suggest that you test your page in at least IE 6 and Firefox/Mozilla. Stick to those two to reduce your stress level learning CSS. This website, www.positioniseverything.net, documents the improper CSS behavior that will rise here and there. So if your webpage does not come out like you'd expect you want to consult that site.
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    Thanks everyone, you have given me much to think about.

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    On the same note www.w3.org also has a CSS validator and links to every css/html item

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    You'll also want to check out here as well. It has some great links and information on your subject. Depending on what your site is for and where it is being hosted. You could even use C on the backend. I've implemented some simple CGI scripts in C on a server I host on my home computer.
    Personally though I prefer Python to use on the backened of my web pages- but thats only cause i host them myself.

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    The biggest problem with css comes from 2 things, propriety IE statements (scrollbar colors, etc) and rendering differences. The main rendering differences come when making fluid layouts, available screen area is reported MUCH differently between IE and mozilla/netscape...I haven't played much with opera but I hear that it's different from either of the first 2 in that sense.
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    I just finished setting up an apache server, so I can finally get to learning some PHP as well... I've been wanting to for almost two years now...
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    Thantos, I really like your website layout.

    But I also know that you dispise tables. So what did you use for your site?

    The only way I know to get that kind of layout is either tables or frames.

    (You'll have to excuse me, I havent used html in YEARS)

    EDIT:
    I have been looking at your source and it seems you just used html and css?

    I didnt know you could separate a page like that with css. Oh boy, I need to hit google hard.
    Last edited by Vicious; 09-06-2004 at 01:10 AM.

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    You might wanna check this out, how to lay down the layout with CSS.
    http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tut...son/boxes.html
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    Yeah all my outputed pages are in html and css. I use <div>s instead of tables.

    Just realize that my source HTML is being created by the PHP engine which is why there is no formating of it, and how I output things from a loop and such.

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