Replacement computer under Warrenty

**RoD** · 02-20-2003

ok then, sell the emachine n byo, the point is u dont want an emachine....i'd rather the apple or god forbid the HP.

there is no good option...

**adrianxw** · 02-20-2003

I don't understand why people spend the ridiculous amounts of money the "leading brands" charge for really pretty basic machines.

It is relatively easy to build a machine yourself, and you'll learn some by doing so, but it is often cheaper to get one of the small local firms that build machines to your spec to do it for you because they get some quantity discounts on some of the parts that you would not qualify for.

I find it scandalous that, (for example), Dell can advertise a 2.4GHz, 256 DDR, 40GB, GeForce4, CD-RW, no screen on the television here at a price almost twice what I paid for my last purchase which has a higher spec.

People say they are more reliable, but that is simply not true. They say the support is better, but again, that is untrue. They say they are "future proofed" but you can't upgrade them because they are full of proprietary components. What is true, is that your money is going into some advertising agency's pocket.

**windoze victim** · 02-20-2003

Thats what i say. But my dad is resistant, saying its to much effort.
Bah. He just doesnt like change.
Besides, then you can go all out on what you want, and conservative in parts that you dont care about. Total customization.

**RoD** · 02-20-2003

dells support is nice, i must say that.

**Travis Dane** · 02-20-2003

Originally posted by RoD
dells support is nice, i must say that.

Sarcasm? Well, I think there are still enough people out there
wich most 'nerds' consider 'noobs'. Alot of people can't assemble
computers, This catogory is the income sector of dell,ibm,apple,
compaq etc. A reason for the higher price can be because of
certain security's you buy with it, Like helpdesk, Insurance,
Support of dell,ibm etc.

**RoD** · 02-20-2003

>>Sarcasm?

not at all.

**Travis Dane** · 02-20-2003

Originally posted by RoD
>>Sarcasm?

not at all.

Well, As they say, "Easy as dell!".

**adrianxw** · 02-20-2003

>>> dells support is nice, i must say that.

"Thank you for calling Dell's online support. Please hold, you are in a queue. One of our highly trained professionals will be with you shortly".

Call the local shop and a real person will answer the phone - and help you.

>>> then you can go all out on what you want,

The named brands often "feature" onboard video, sound etc. Fitting something half decent is a real chore, sometimes involving cutting component leads - bad.

Todays hardware is really very easy - it has been designed to be so.

**~~frenchfry164~~** · 02-20-2003

I got excellent support for my computer. I just gotta talk to myself.

COMPAQ IS THE DEVIL. I used to have a Compaq and it was awful. That was b4 I learned how to build a computer. Now I build it all myself. I can get stuff so much cheaper that way, and I trust myself more than their so-called "highly trained professional" which is probably some zit face freak that thinks he's smart because he knows how to enter the BIOS. I have had lots of problems with support. Usually you get put on hold, or they make you pay to replace a part, supposively under warranty. Not even to mention the wait you have getting the so-called "support".

I look in the Best Buy ads just to see how bad they rip people off on their computer packages. Their other stuff is also expensive (most of the time, sometimes they get good deals). I walked into a Best Buy store like two months ago and asked them how much their cheapest 128MB PC133 SDRAM was. It was $55 before rebate, and $46 after. I can get the same stick for about $10 to $20 elsewhere.

My advice for you is to somehow prove that you can build a computer. It really isn't too hard. The hardest part is putting the cooling on the processor. As long as you follow the directions that came with your chip you'll be fine. After you build your first computer, you'll know a little more about computers, and you can pretty much set up any computer you want. It's like riding a bike. Just don't get a cheap motherboard. Trust me, it's worth the extra $50 to get a better board. Some of the cheaper boards don't even have a manual.

**windoze victim** · 02-20-2003

I just got the new comp, an Emachine
2 GHz Intel Celeron
40x max write CDRW drive
DVD r drive
128 mg DDR ram
6 USB ports
integrated LAN, Sound, Video
something called 3D Intel extreme graphics AGP
XP home ed.
40 Gig hd (old one was 10 gig=P)

**adrianxw** · 02-21-2003

>>> The hardest part is putting the cooling on the processor.

Far more critical on an AMD chip than an Intel, at least he older ones. In Tom's now almost legendary film, both the Intels survive having the heatsink taken off, but both the AMD's go up in smoke and take the motherboard with them. I believe AMD have fixed the problem with the ThoroughBred and Barton cored chips, but I still think the AMD's run hotter.

Incidently, the link to the DivX codec doesn't work anymore but you can get it here .

**vasanth** · 02-21-2003

FIrst i bough my system from an assembler.. 5 years back i guess. Then i upgraded my system myslef.. from PII to PIII.. got new motherboards etc etc.. If anything goes wqrong with the part say the processor.. i take it to th the store from where i got it to get my replacement..

I would sugest you build a PC yourself.. I have seen a couple of branded system.. they are the worst i have seen... When you build it yourself.. you can handpick each components..

**face_master** · 02-21-2003

I don't understand why people spend the ridiculous amounts of money the "leading brands" charge for really pretty basic machines.

It is relatively easy to build a machine yourself, and you'll learn some by doing so, but it is often cheaper to get one of the small local firms that build machines to your spec to do it for you because they get some quantity discounts on some of the parts that you would not qualify for.

I find it scandalous that, (for example), Dell can advertise a 2.4GHz, 256 DDR, 40GB, GeForce4, CD-RW, no screen on the television here at a price almost twice what I paid for my last purchase which has a higher spec.

People say they are more reliable, but that is simply not true. They say the support is better, but again, that is untrue. They say they are "future proofed" but you can't upgrade them because they are full of proprietary components. What is true, is that your money is going into some advertising agency's pocket.

Adrian, you've gotta be one of the smartest people I know. There is no way I could agree more tih this post.

Branded comp (EG. HP) - You ring tech support. You wait like 3 hours. They tell you reinstall windows. You finally go down with the comp to get them to fix it. They see the case has been opened. You warranty is now void.

One you built yourself - A part dies. You bring the part to the store with reciept. You get refund/replacement straight away.

**RoD** · 02-21-2003

>>Usually you get put on hold, or they make you pay to replace a part, supposively under warranty. Not even to mention the wait you have getting the so-called "support".

>>"Thank you for calling Dell's online support. Please hold, you are in a queue. One of our highly trained professionals will be with you shortly".

Call the local shop and a real person will answer the phone - and help you.

I never once paid for anything with dell. I was never on hold in excess of three minutes. I always got my parts in 2-4 days, and they never once fought me. I will always reccomend byo, but secondly is dell, hands down.

**Travis Dane** · 02-21-2003

Originally posted by windoze victim
I just got the new comp, an Emachine
2 GHz Intel Celeron
40x max write CDRW drive
DVD r drive
128 mg DDR ram
6 USB ports
integrated LAN, Sound, Video
something called 3D Intel extreme graphics AGP
XP home ed.
40 Gig hd (old one was 10 gig=P)

I hope you're not going to use this for high level graphics of any
kind, Otherwise you're really dooped. Computers with onboard
videocard can be automaticly considered cheap and slow, At
least that's the expirience i've had with onboard equipment.