why does amd have half the front side bus speed of intell and does it matter

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    Facts anyone? No?

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    just the obvious, stupid fanboy, seriously, i wish i would be an AMD fanboy because i would save lots of money, but i cant get AMD because, in real life, they suck, i wont use them because they suck, thats why i pay more for intel, why would anyone pay more for something that u guys say is worse then amd if it really was.hmmmmmmm think about it
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    Don't ya love the amount of intelligence in this thread? I can feel myself getting smarter just being here.

    You've got no basis saying "AMD processors suck." It's sort of amusing because everyone reading this thread can see the amount of stupidity you're boasting as argument.

    >just the obvious, stupid fanboy<

    Okay, then how about you show us "oblivious to the obvious fanboys" what the obvious is.

    Give us one good argument on how AMD sucks. Oh, that's right - you can't.
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    something sucks when you use it and it just sucks, just face it, they suck.

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    >something sucks when you use it and it just sucks, just face it, they suck.<

    Something sucks when you use it...and it just sucks? Wow, that's over my head.

    I'm thinking this thread sucks because of the sucky crap sucky people are throwing around as sucky arguments. I think I might just quit this sucky debate before my intelligence quotient begins exponentially decreasing. I mean, that would really suck, huh?


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    yah, fanboys tend to lose their intelligence after time, this thread should be closed to save you all.

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    >yah, fanboys tend to lose their intelligence after time, this thread should be closed to save you all.<

    Damn, talking about your all-time generalized, unintelligent, non-based statement. Not to mention bold...

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    blah, blah, blah. Eat it.

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    Quit the petty bickering or this is getting trashed

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    Intel has is better in video editing, and things of that nature. AMD is better at, well, pretty much everything else.

    Intel, as much as the company themeselves hates it, is better at overclocking. Is cooler, and will SAFELY (yes SAFELY) run without a heatsink. That isn't even close to possible for an AMD. You can actually run a PIV with no heatsink and you won't fry your chip. Try that with AMD, and it's just a matter of seconds.

    So, it depends on what you want. Intel has it's benefits (as few and useless as they are) and AMD had it's benefits. I have an PIII right now, and have no complaint. My next will likely be an AMD though, because AMD's benefits outweigh intels.

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    Originally posted by TravisS
    Intel has is better in video editing, and things of that nature. AMD is better at, well, pretty much everything else.

    Intel, as much as the company themeselves hates it, is better at overclocking. Is cooler, and will SAFELY (yes SAFELY) run without a heatsink. That isn't even close to possible for an AMD. You can actually run a PIV with no heatsink and you won't fry your chip. Try that with AMD, and it's just a matter of seconds.

    So, it depends on what you want. Intel has it's benefits (as few and useless as they are) and AMD had it's benefits. I have an PIII right now, and have no complaint. My next will likely be an AMD though, because AMD's benefits outweigh intels.
    I don't see how amd's "benifits" outweigh intel.

    Intel is better for;

    Editing.

    Gaming. Yes gaming because of its ability to run faster and cooler is is better then any amd processor at gaming.

    Music and Multimedia. You can claim its not all you want, its the day to day application and use of an intel that proves it is.

    Multi-tasking. Do i even need to elaborate here?

    The only thing AMD has over intel is cheaper prices, and thats because they aren't as good.

    If amd was so kick ass and so much better then pentium, then they'd be the leading chip in production pc's, but guess what, they're not.

    If amd was so good they'd be the leading chip among the video game community, but guess what, they're not.

    And if amd was so damn good, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, because more then 10% of the population would be using them.

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    AMD/Intel

    &nbsp;&nbsp;Oh, for goodness' sake! At the hardware level, the AMD processors are Intel clones. They use the same instruction set and do the same things. The only thing in question is which one is cheaper for its clock speed, which one is more efficient, and which one overheats easier. As far as high-level tasks (multimedia, gaming) are concerned, they don't know they're doing them, so neither one can be so selective! All they know is that they're churning instructions. They both churn the same instructions, so you can't say one is better at games and the other is better at multimedia, it's purely a matter of the speed at which they both churn.

    &nbsp;&nbsp;In the hope of settling the matter, here are the facts as I know them:

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Intel processors:
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Are more expensive for their clock speed.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Have more safety mechanisms.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Overheat with difficulty.

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;AMD processors:
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Are less expensive for their clock speed.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Have virtually no safety mechanisms.
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Overheat easily.

    &nbsp;&nbsp;It's a simple matter of compromise. You can have it cheap or you can have it ultra-safe. It's up to the buyer. I don't really mind either way, so long as it works!
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    Oh the bliss! Thanks for the help vVv.

    Nice reasoning on RoD and Cgawds part; AMDs suck because they suck. Go READ a book, or a technical article... your time would be better spent enlightening yourselves instead of trying to convince these extremely intelligent people that AMDs "suck".

    This is hopeless, next time try presenting some facts or evidence for your claims.
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    They both churn the same instructions, so you can't say one is better at games and the other is better at multimedia, it's purely a matter of the speed at which they both churn.
    I don't think this statement is particularly accurate. They both provide the x86 ISA, but this doesn't necessarily mean that they are churning the same instructions in there core. Or that each ones method of churning these instructions is the same. There core implementations may well be pretty similar, but I wouldn't rely on clock speed alone to attempt to differentiate between them.
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    According to Tom's Hardware, Intel has the highest preformance, but AMD has better performance/price ratio.

    http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/02...4_2800-12.html
    http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/02...hange_in_power
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