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    Question Java standard

    Does Java even have a standard or is it too "new"?
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    Now, please, for the love of all things good and holy, think about what you're doing! Don't just run around willy-nilly, coding like a drunk two-year-old....
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    ..... Just don't be surprised when I say you aren't using standard C anymore, and as such,are off in your own little universe that I will completely disregard.
    Warning: Some or all of my posted code may be non-standard and as such should not be used and in no case looked at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewHunter
    Does Java even have a standard or is it too "new"?
    It has a language specification that has not been ratified by a standards body, as far as I know, and then the implementation by Sun/Oracle is arguably a reference implementation.
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    Java is the one of the most standardized programming language today.
    It is the most widely used today in industry and has very bright future..

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    What is the standard then? I am referring to a document that defines what the language will do.
    Quote Originally Posted by anduril462 View Post
    Now, please, for the love of all things good and holy, think about what you're doing! Don't just run around willy-nilly, coding like a drunk two-year-old....
    Quote Originally Posted by quzah View Post
    ..... Just don't be surprised when I say you aren't using standard C anymore, and as such,are off in your own little universe that I will completely disregard.
    Warning: Some or all of my posted code may be non-standard and as such should not be used and in no case looked at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewHunter
    What is the standard then? I am referring to a document that defines what the language will do.
    You could refer to: The Java Language Specification, Third Edition
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    Thank you for splitting out that thread Laser (and or Salem); some sort of notification would have helped a little though . I will look at that and revisit the topic later, I think I see where you guys are going...have fun with that.

    As a side note, since I was not a comp sci major, are you guys taught in your courses the difference between the requirements of the language and the implementation? It seems there are many questions where the OPsters have confused these topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anduril462 View Post
    Now, please, for the love of all things good and holy, think about what you're doing! Don't just run around willy-nilly, coding like a drunk two-year-old....
    Quote Originally Posted by quzah View Post
    ..... Just don't be surprised when I say you aren't using standard C anymore, and as such,are off in your own little universe that I will completely disregard.
    Warning: Some or all of my posted code may be non-standard and as such should not be used and in no case looked at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumit180288 View Post
    Java is the one of the most standardized programming language today.
    It is the most widely used today in industry and has very bright future..
    Nope. Java is a non-standardized, proprietary language. And however popular it may be today, it was not built to last. Besides the oh-so-painful, long-winded syntax, the instruction set is severely hampered by various artificial limitations (not to mention those nasty licensing issues). I'm not saying that as some critical "outsider" either. Not only have I used the language for many years, I've built parsers and virtual machines for it too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewHunter
    some sort of notification would have helped a little though
    Sorry, there was a sudden bout of lag for me.

    Anyway *clears throat*, this thread was split from: Differnce between C and Java returning an Object reference/pointer

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewHunter
    As a side note, since I was not a comp sci major, are you guys taught in your courses the difference between the requirements of the language and the implementation?
    Does that really need to be taught? It is like teaching a child that there may be a difference between the photograph of the food shown on the menu and what the food actually looks like when it arrives on his/her plate.
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    I'm hoping that by actually answering those kinds of questions the asker realizes they don't need to know. Sometimes just by being honest you can speak enough jibberish to make them disinterested, but not extend to being uninformative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight View Post
    Sorry, there was a sudden bout of lag for me.

    Anyway *clears throat*, this thread was split from: Differnce between C and Java returning an Object reference/pointer
    ROFL..... Thanks for the heads up.


    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight View Post
    Does that really need to be taught? It is like teaching a child that there may be a difference between the photograph of the food shown on the menu and what the food actually looks like when it arrives on his/her plate.
    I agree, however I have seen posts on both the C and C++ forums now that cross over to the implementation side(unfortunately the answers to those posts don't recognize this).
    Quote Originally Posted by anduril462 View Post
    Now, please, for the love of all things good and holy, think about what you're doing! Don't just run around willy-nilly, coding like a drunk two-year-old....
    Quote Originally Posted by quzah View Post
    ..... Just don't be surprised when I say you aren't using standard C anymore, and as such,are off in your own little universe that I will completely disregard.
    Warning: Some or all of my posted code may be non-standard and as such should not be used and in no case looked at.

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