Win7 console size

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    Win7 console size

    To anyone already using Windows 7, as there been any changes to the default console size of 80x25?
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    What units are 80x25?

    It looks like the same size as it did in Vista/XP. If it is different, it's not by much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrotcake1029 View Post
    What units are 80x25?
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    ^ a unit
    b <- another unit
    C programming resources:
    GNU C Function and Macro Index -- glibc reference manual
    The C Book -- nice online learner guide
    Current ISO draft standard
    CCAN -- new CPAN like open source library repository
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    cpwiki -- our wiki on sourceforge

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    Why does it matter what the default size is? It's easy enough to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjust View Post
    Why does it matter what the default size is?
    Because I asked
    But seriously, the app I'm finishing includes a default option that doesn't force a console resolution. I'm just trying to establish if I need to worry about it, since some of the screens depend on a minimum resolution of 80x25.
    Last edited by Mario F.; 07-31-2009 at 09:57 PM.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    No change.
    (Tested on Win7 RC1.)
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Ah! And I had just sent you a message when I saw you online... knowing you would be using windows 7 already

    Thanks.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    No problem. Good luck with your app.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    It's over actually, thanks. I'm just adding these meaningless touches to it, as I gather the courage to go back to the GUI client.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Just an thought - have you considered making your 'own' console window? That way you could fix some annoying problems with the console, like copy-paste functionality, and it would be impervious to future changes in the console.
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    I'm not sure I would know how to do that. But I do see your point and drool all over it.

    My current framework for GUI development is wxWidgets which doesn't offer a "console control" I could manipulate. Something in fact I would really need much for the GUI client for this server I finished. Currently I'm emulating a console through a richtext box (don't freak. It's not so bad since it offers a buffer). So to build an actual console, I'll need Win32 development skills... and I dread entering into that...
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I take it then that your output/input isn't safe from sabotage?

    Assuming your not selling this client or anything... DosBox is open source, you could model something of your own after it. (and, heaven forbid, add copy-paste support!!) I haven't seen the code myself, but I don't think they use a cross-platform GUI lib (which would mean some work), but, maybe they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarin View Post
    I take it then that your output/input isn't safe from sabotage?
    nah. That sort-of-console-emulator-greatness only serves for output. Think, Visual Studio Output Window.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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