Application Data folder on Windows

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    Oh yeah, I forgot there's actually people out there that share their computer with other people.
    I guess it makes sense in that way, but in another way it also adds more clutter, especially for people who don't share their computer with anyone else.
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    Oh, and if you keep application settings right next to application executables, backups become either really tricky or really large.
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    > Oh, and if you keep application settings right next to application executables, backups become either really tricky or really large.
    One of the reasons they moved away from that idea perhaps?

    Made me sad, makes things a tad harder to program

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    Quote Originally Posted by idelovski View Post
    ... like back it up?

    Sorry - couldn't resist!
    Well, maybe.
    There should definitely be tools to backup application settings, to make users aware.
    Indeed, tools to backup the entire profile would be a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornedBee View Post
    Oh, and if you keep application settings right next to application executables, backups become either really tricky or really large.
    That's why you only backup files that have changed for Incremental Backups.
    I use an external hard drive for backups and it takes about 5-10 mins to do a total backup of my entire system >200GB.

    I'd rather restore the system from a complete backup rather than reinstall all the software, then restore the data from backup and hope you didn't forget to backup anything important.
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    But full backups tend to up a lot of space, so you would do it every month or so.
    But backing up app data takes up little to no space, so you could do it regularly.
    And typically, it wouldn't matter if they were next to the apps or not - since you would (hopefully) do a full system partition backup.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    In the end it seems there isn't much I can do. So I came to a conclusion that maybe I can
    put a checkbox somewhere in my application that tells it to keep a copy of settings file in
    My Documents too.

    Default would stay as it is today, preferences are kept in Application Data, but if someone
    wishes, application can always create a copy in My Documents.

    So, a day comes and the file in Application Data is lost. My application is about to create
    new, default file in Application Data, but it checks first if maybe there is a copy in My
    Documents. If there is, then that copy is used and from there everything resumes as before.

    The thing is, few months ago there was a guy who lectured me about Windows platform best
    practices and told me that he never heard about Application Data, but on Windows "everything
    important is kept in My Documents" so I should learn to use that folder. I said "Yeah, yeah" to
    him, but now his arrogant ignorance gave me idea. To people like him I can just say that in
    some pref panel there is a check box and now everything will be kept in My Docs and every-
    thing's fine and happy ever after and so on.

    This should be like perfect solution until Microsoft finds a better place for Application Data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idelovski View Post
    This should be like perfect solution until Microsoft finds a better place for Application Data.
    Microsoft doesn't need to. The application data folder is ideal.
    People are ignorant and will always be, so this issue will continue always and forever.
    My documents are so littered with all sorts of crap where I usually am supposed to keep... that's right - documents!!!
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    People aren't automatically ignorant because they don't want to take the time to master a file-system. What's wrong with you pseudo-intellectual types. You know, technically I was directed by my professor to create several new directories at the top level of the C: drive, and I didn't. From what I've seen, people typically order things when they will have longevity or things of weighty importance to them.
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    Lots of people are ignorant. And being ignorant is fine, because we do not have to know the inner workings of something to use it. So in many areas we are ignorant, yet we still use it and the purpose of many things is to make it usable by ignorant people.
    What people need to do is use a backup tool that knows what it's doing.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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