Who doesn't format Windows?

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    I guess because of all the talk of Wine and how it runs Windows apps under Linux?
    Because it does. Not all, not at full functionality on some applications and sometimes with problems. But does for a large number of applications. Which is more than I can say about Windows.

    In any case, I don't see why Windows should support Linux application, true. And for all that matters, I find Virtual Machines a much better solution under most circumstances.

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    I switched to Linux a few months ago. My hair didn't fall yet. I think I'm safe. And more than ever before I don't understand any of the arguments against it.

    so... anyone up for giving link to simplest linux "version" ubuntu maybe? and i need one that can be installed with anoter os, does not erase it
    Yes. I suggest Ubuntu for the time being. Vast user base and lots of documentation and books out there targeting this system. When you get comfortable enough my true suggestion is Arch Linux. It contains only the essentials and will allow you to build your OS with just the stuff you want. More than I can say for all the crap that Ubuntu installs and the, I'm afraid to say, terrible packages maintenance.
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    So I just download Ubuntu and I have the OS? Or, it doesn't interfere with Windows?
    Would like to take a look at it for real, but first I'll need my PC back or a new one, then Imma get Ubuntu and Windows
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    Yes, and no it doesn't usually interfere with Windows. However, there is some project out there that allows Ubuntu to run under windows (called Wubi) or something. Or it runs on the Windows partition, I never tried it because it's a terrible idea IMO.

    You should do your research for which distro to begin with, ie OpenSuse, Ubuntu -- any of the "user friendly" ones. Then perhaps you may want to move to Slackware or Arch =). Or if your time is worthless, Gentoo

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    I usually run Linux in VMWare, that way I can run Windows & Linux at the same time.
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    so... anyone up for giving link to simplest linux "version" ubuntu maybe? and i need one that can be installed with anoter os, does not erase it
    All major distributions can do that. Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, SuSE...

    But first, make sure you are ready to devote at least a few months to it, a few hours everyday. Learning a new OS is not easy. Don't expect to play with it for two hours and be a Linux expert.

    The world would be full of Linux experts if that was the case . You have been warned.

    As for wine, it is just for those one or two programs that you absolutely must have and has no comparable replacement. If you want to use all your Windows apps under Linux... might as well just run Windows. It is the case for all OSes, not just Linux. On Windows, use Visual Studio, on Linux, use one of those Linux IDEs, and on Mac, use xCode. Most of the programs I use nowadays are cross-platform, Firefox, Thunderbird, Open Office, GCC, Code::Blocks, etc, just so I don't need to use different programs on different platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post

    But first, make sure you are ready to devote at least a few months to it, a few hours everyday. Learning a new OS is not easy. Don't expect to play with it for two hours and be a Linux expert.
    Dammit >.< Well, I seem to learn easily, since I learned how to play Stronghold before my older brother, while I was only watching and he was actually playing the game :P So, if I think about, that it'll take a long time, I'll give up... Likewise with C++ -.- I hate my lack of patience :P
    Just hope I'll get my PC back soon, so that I can actually try Linux ^^
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    Not to discourage you... but learning a new OS is not a matter of a few hours. Think about how long it took you to learn Windows. It should take about that much time (maybe a bit less).

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    I never learnt windows :P Just knew how to use it when I got my first PC... Probably from seeing others use it... But it took me some time to get into advanced stuff, but learning them took no time :P
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    You can try Ubuntu and some other distros as "Live CD" first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkernight View Post
    I never learnt windows :P Just knew how to use it when I got my first PC...
    Oh, you learned it alright. You just don't seem to realize you did.

    Early learning experiences, particularly those that come as as part of a natural process and when seen after the fact, don't look much like there was any effort in it. But that's just your selective memory at work. You have put as much effort in learning Windows as you'd put in learning Linux. Only this time, because you are aware... and unwilling... it will look harder to you.

    If you can rise above it, you will succeed in learning a new operating system and consequently diversify yourself. I could put some interesting quote here from some interesting person, but I'm sure I don't need it. You know the importance of Knowledge.
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Ok, you're clever and all, so I'm not gonna argue, 'cause I dunno anything more than I never really learnt Windows, and if your knowledge thing is true, then that's high tech stuff I don't understand :P
    But I'll still check Linux/ubuntu out, and hopefully be able to press Start... Wait, does it have the Start button? 'Cause that's my navigation, and I need it :P
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    Yes, it does. It's not labeled Start, and has no Windows icon on it, but it's there all right.
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    Phew... That's a life-saver :P
    Getting my PC back today, hope Linux will fix the constant problematic computer... Problems :P
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    You realize that there is no "magic way" to solve "problematic computer problems"?
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Shoo the negative attitude :P Ofc there's a magic way... Like, not using Vista
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