d programming language - a better c++?

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    d programming language - a better c++?

    Anyone heard of this language?of course,you do.
    Last time I read,this language was supposed to become a better C++,flawless C++.I was interested at that time.But now,I barely heard any news about it.It's a shame really since there's lot of C++ guru that also contributed to this language.
    My question,for anyone learned d and programming with d.Is that language worth learning?I'm not talking about the language syntax but rather the libraries that come with it ,cross platform development,practicality in real work...etc.
    opinion anyone???

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    I haven't actually used it, but I've investigated its standard library a bit. I find that it has a disappointing lack of structure or concept - a disjoint collection of utilities with no common design guidelines. Very much unlike the C++ standard library, I might say - more reminiscent of PHP's library.

    However, not having actually used in practice, I might be wrong about this.
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    I've used it a little, and I went back to C++ when I was done.

    My overall opinion of D is a bit like my opinion of Java: it picks a number of features that someone (or some group of people) consider are the good bits of C++, eliminates what those same people consider to be bad bits of C++, and adds a few other language and library features that those people deem to be "good things". The problem is that a different group of people, if asked to pick a good set of language or library features, will probably produce something very different.

    I agree with CornedBee that D's standard library is a collection with no real consistency, although it does provide some capabilities that C++'s standard library does not.

    Overall, I would not use D in production code. Although D is intended as a "practical" language, it discourages some approaches I use practically and encourages other approaches I rarely use practically. In other words, my notion of "practical" is very different from that of the designers of D.

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    I'm starting to use D; it's not bad.
    Unfortunately, since there isn't a very large amount of people using it, there aren't too many projects or libraries that you can use, other than Tango and Phobos.
    I'm hoping that gets better though.

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    thanks for all your reply.
    hmm it seem d has lot of caught up that need to be done.Until then,I will just wait and see before learning d.

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    I lost all interest in the language when I saw garbage collection.
    The one big thing I love about C++ is the ability to freely choose what we want to do and how, not being forced to do something a specific way simply because of a shortcoming in the language.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    You don't HAVE to use garbage collection, you can still manage your own memory.

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    Maybe I did judge D too harshly and too quickly, but it seems to be moving away from C++, with quirky VB-style syntax such as assigning a return value to the function name. I don't like it.
    I guess I can't really give a valid argument since I don't have any experience or knowledge about it except for some snippets from wikipedia.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.
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    I've found it to be a good language. There are some things that bug me about it, which are:

    1. Lack of support
    2. Compile time errors are obscure and hard to tell what the problem is, and there are shown in multi-passes. So once you fix a set of compile-time errors, you may still be in for some more after. Run time errors don't help much either.

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    compiler error messages are always obscure and i think its a good thing
    otherwise what would we do with ourselves all day.

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    otherwise what would we do with ourselves all day.
    You mean other than replying to threads that have been collecting dust for 3 years?
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    Two threads about D were resurrected today. what are the odds?
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    A lot less in future, since both of them are now closed.
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