Should I switch to Vista 64 bit?

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    Should I switch to Vista 64 bit?

    I recently purchased a new laptop and found out it has AMD64 architecture but was only installed with a 32 bit version of Vista (Home Premium). I was wondering what the advantages/disadvantages (if any) would be if I were to upgrade to a 64 bit edition of Vista? That and if my computer can adequately run it of course.

    I have a HP Pavilion dv2845se

    2.1GHz AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2
    3.4gb of RAM

    If any could help I would be much appreciative

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    Your computer is capable of running a 64-bit OS, but I doubt that you'll see any great benefit from it. The most likely scenario where you would benefit is if you have more than 4GB of RAM.

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    Note that with Windows you can't "upgrade" to 64-bit. It requires a clean re-installation and in which case I'd suggest XP x64 instead.
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    Also, isn't the driver support for the 64-bit version of Vista supposed to be far inferior to the 32-bit version? Thought I heard that somewhere... I could be wrong.
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    Most likely it is. Drivers for 64-bit are generally developed after 32-bit drivers and since Vista broke 99% of the drivers out there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hk_mp5kpdw View Post
    Also, isn't the driver support for the 64-bit version of Vista supposed to be far inferior to the 32-bit version? Thought I heard that somewhere... I could be wrong.
    For vista it's likely to be better than for XP, since Vista, to a large extent, needs new drivers to support it anyways, and it shouldn't be that much overhead to make the driver do 64-bit.

    For XP the situation was that XP-64 came out long after the initial XP release, so drivers originally written for XP in 32-bit code would have to be ported individually.

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    As a side note, I'd have to say that's a nice laptop. Almost out does my desktop PC :S

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    Well, I can sure say it sure has a lot of ram. Very nice.
    However, it has a poor mobile processor. Shame.
    But it does look good, it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matsp View Post
    Your computer is capable of running a 64-bit OS, but I doubt that you'll see any great benefit from it. The most likely scenario where you would benefit is if you have more than 4GB of RAM.
    Yes, this is what I thought but I wasn't quite sure. Well, at least I don't have to go through a long drawn out install process now

    Thanks for the help everyone, I appreciate it a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Well, I can sure say it sure has a lot of ram. Very nice.
    However, it has a poor mobile processor. Shame.
    But it does look good, it does.
    Yeah, unfortunately the processor is a little on the slow side but I can still run 95% of the apps that I really want to use. It is a good laptop though, it doesn't run nearly as hot as my old laptop did, not to mention I got it for a very nice price.

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    At 2100MHz, it's comparable to a Desktop Athlon 64 X2 4000+, which isn't a bad processor in itself.

    Calling it slow is obviously a question of how you define slow, but my desktop here at work is "slower", since it's only running 1800MHz (Ok, so it's probably about par to the AMD version above, since it's a Core2 Duo). And it's plenty fast enough for what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaldicpoet9 View Post
    Yeah, unfortunately the processor is a little on the slow side but I can still run 95% of the apps that I really want to use. It is a good laptop though, it doesn't run nearly as hot as my old laptop did, not to mention I got it for a very nice price.
    What applications are you looking to run that a dual-core processor at 2.1Ghz can't handle? At that range it shouldn't be a matter of can/can't but only a matter of how well it can. I should imagine you're talking about some extremely heavy computational stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matsp View Post
    At 2100MHz, it's comparable to a Desktop Athlon 64 X2 4000+, which isn't a bad processor in itself.

    Calling it slow is obviously a question of how you define slow, but my desktop here at work is "slower", since it's only running 1800MHz (Ok, so it's probably about par to the AMD version above, since it's a Core2 Duo). And it's plenty fast enough for what I do.

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    If you have Vista Home Premium, you should upgrade to XP. Id recommend 32 bit unless you need 64 bit, because there are a lot of hardware compatability issues with 64 bit, most manufacturers dont have 64 bit drivers rolled out yet.
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