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    I couldn't agree more. novacain, thanks for...

    I couldn't agree more.

    novacain, thanks for a valiant effort.

    zahid, well.... I think you tried.... I thought you had learned your lesson but oh well.

    it's been fun
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    ....but we're getting off the path. The actual...

    ....but we're getting off the path.

    The actual incidents that we have so far that make the US so terrible and point to oil as a motive are as follows:

    1. Angola
    The US along with Germany,...
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    novacain. I am aware that the link I posted has...

    novacain. I am aware that the link I posted has some opinion in it. I was interested in the data/facts. I don't care even remotely about what one character in the country says. As to the CIA...
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    zahid, I agree that the reason for the war was...

    zahid, I agree that the reason for the war was not WMD or liberation.

    the reason was in 91 after we removed Saddam from Kuwait, Iraq signed an agreement that he would follow certain protocol to...
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    SAMSAM, you're right about the cost outweighing...

    SAMSAM, you're right about the cost outweighing the benefit. This was also the case with the sanctions. If we really wanted the oil, we could have lifted the sanctions on Saddam. But I don't want...
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    one of my favorite quotes but I don't know who...

    one of my favorite quotes but I don't know who said it: :) thanks for the effort silvercord but I think he may just be hopeless

    Edit: the quote is from Mark Twain apparently
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    zahid, study this quote from novicain: this is...

    zahid, study this quote from novicain:

    this is talking about a specific occurrence in history. An event. Something that actually happened. You are spouting insinuations and hate. post in a...
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    just let novicain answer. I'd like to have an...

    just let novicain answer. I'd like to have an intelligent conversation.
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    I don't believe so. it is a requirement for...

    I don't believe so. it is a requirement for rebuttal that I see your facts. Rhetoric is not enough to rebut. It's quite silly to throw rhetoric back at you actually.
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    zahid, I know english is not your first language...

    zahid, I know english is not your first language so I'm not attacking you here but I have no idea what you just said. Is there any way you could run through that and clean it up a bit?

    edit:...
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    novacain I am so thankful. You have attempted...

    novacain I am so thankful. You have attempted to introduce facts. Although you didn't seem to realize that it is all that I was asking for. I will touch on each point.


    Any of those will be...
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    the grander point. If you're saying that your...

    the grander point. If you're saying that your entire basis for hating the US is for its desire to steal arab oil and you can't even show ONE example where they have done that I would say that you...
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    >> Did that. But I knew you weren't going to like...

    >> Did that. But I knew you weren't going to like it
    funny, you weren't part of the conversation.

    >> You have no idea of the irony.
    I haven't been talking about my view, only requesting some...
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    again, my question is simple and it doesn't ask...

    again, my question is simple and it doesn't ask for opinions or quotes from military people. It is a small request for a fact. When has the US ever stolen another country's oil.

    "educate...
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    see, this is what I'm saying. people who...

    see, this is what I'm saying. people who criticise the US of stealing oil always give opinionated editorials as evidence. I have not seen one shred of evidence to just how they are doing it. We...
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    OSR I don't share your fervor for war (I think...

    OSR I don't share your fervor for war (I think you speak in jest anyway).

    My only beef is with the hate zahid obviously has for america. He showed the two above links as some sort of education...
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    zahid, why is there a need to talk of israel when...

    zahid, why is there a need to talk of israel when the thread is about US vs. Iraq? truth be known, as an american I've only heard of israel in the context of arabs and jews not getting along. This...
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    Nope, didn't take the oil. good try though. ...

    Nope, didn't take the oil. good try though.


    quite obviously, oil is the only wealth Iraq has. if you mean to rebuild the nation, you must maintain it's source of wealth.
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    zahid, I don't see what you're trying to show as...

    zahid, I don't see what you're trying to show as truth then. America is an evil force that covers that evil with propaganda? interesting.

    I have seen the statements against this nation...
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    zahid, that photo was likely taken later in the...

    zahid, that photo was likely taken later in the day after crowds had dispersed. I, like many others saw the footage live. it was nothing like that. chalk another one up to anti-american slant.
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    as far as families getting shredded. if my...

    as far as families getting shredded. if my country was in the position Iraq was in right now I would make damn sure not to drive my car quickly in the direction of American troops. I've seen plenty...
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    the more important matter is that he pulled that...

    the more important matter is that he pulled that image off of aljazeera's website. That says it all to me. Every headline is anti-US. Go to the site if you wish. http://english.aljazeera.net or...
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    The white house has said that at this point, a...

    The white house has said that at this point, a temporary occupation is going to happen whether we have to kill saddam or not. It is necessary to establish the new govt. Just like Afghanistan
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    my hope is that the only thing Saddam has up his...

    my hope is that the only thing Saddam has up his sleeve is shrapnel from a good ol' american bunker buster.

    Nobody has yet confirmed that Saddam is alive. The taped speech can not be considered...
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    tomahawk fyi ...

    tomahawk fyi

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/bgm-109.htm

    $500,000 - current production Unit Cost
    $1,4000,000 - average unit cost (TY$)
    $11,210,000,000 - total program...
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