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Need partner for indie Mac App Store business

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    Unhappy Need partner for indie Mac App Store business

    I want to go into business developing apps(games, mostly) and selling them on the Mac App Store, but a few obstacles stand in the way. Like how I'm broke and only have access to PowerPC Macs, which aren't compatible with the App Store at all. What I need is a loyal stooge to partner with, somebody who has a modern Mac to compile my software on and submit it to the App Store with, somebody who can set up an Apple Developer Account for me.

    And yes, that means you'd have to shell out $99 of your own money. But! To reimburse you, I'll give you the first $99 that I make. And guess what? After that... I'll happily split all the money with you 50/50. Which, honestly, you'd deserve because you would be the one enabling my entire business venture. Plus, I'll share my code with you and can probably tutor you to a fair extent, if you want me to.

    Age doesn't matter, experience doesn't matter, gender doesn't matter. All that matters is that you have the modern Mac, the $99, the enthusiasm to work with me on this, and that you won't rip me off. I wish I could choose everybody that fits the description, but I only need one partner. So I apologize in advance and profusely if I don't pick you. Seriously.

    (Becuase I bet tons of people will be clamoring for this job that sounds like a half-baked scam, haha. P.S., I'm aware there probably aren't many(any?) Mac users here, but my search is going badly and I'm getting real desparate about now.)
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    There's a place where the next super-mega world beating games that people with little experience* have decided they're going to make can get people to give them money. It's called KickStarter.

    * I have no idea of your experience level but that's precisely because of a lack of such references in your pitch

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    "Hi, I wanna sell stuff on the Mac App Store. I think ya'll should give me the $1000 or so dollars I need to get an ADC account and a new-ish Mac with Lion because you... Should."

    Would that go over well at Kickstarter? I'm guessing, probably not.

    Ask random benevolent strangers to fund what will be another dime-a-dozen app developer as far as they know, or ask one person to invest $99 with the incentive that they'll be paid back in full and receive a 50% cut of my profits(and get to use my frameworks to rapidly develop their own apps, and get a free education in C/Objective-C/OpenGL 1.2(woo!) if they need one). I think the latter has better odds of working, although they're still probably pretty grim.
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    This is certainly small enough to get an actual investment from real friends and family.

    Ask all of them for $5 or anything that they can afford. Give them a receipt for double the investment or something if you must.

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    And by the way, asking this on a programmers forum where the majority of regulars are professionals is kind of silly.

    At the very least get a demo off the ground so that you can prove you have the skill to make anything that would sell a single license.
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    My entire household is as broke as I am. Friends, ditto. Extended relatives, N/A. I'd take another option if I had one, but, yeah. Not happening.


    Demo'ing my apps? Eh, might not be such a hot idea. I could say "here's the app I'm developing. It does so-and-so which is obviously really popular, but pretty much no other develeper on the App Store is doing it right now. Plus, it does so-and-so in a more effective and complete way than any other app I know of that does something similar, on any platform. Maybe it won't make you a millionaire, but it's definitely going to make your $99 back. And more on top of that". Then some Mac App Store developer reads my comment, and boom, suddenly my app isn't as unique anymore and I'm beaten to the punch while stuck in purgatory arguing about how being my business partner would be a really good deal. And then I smash my head into a wall.


    Professional programmers? Bah, I bet even professional programmers would like to collect royalties in perpetuity for just compiling somebody else's software and submitting it to Apple. Got a sweet work-to-money ratio going on there.


    But even if most of the regulars are pros, aren't there still a fair number of novices and intermediates here who'd benefit from my free tutoring offer?
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    If this is something you're truly invested in, I would consider doing all of the compilation in Xcode. I own OSX 10.6, and have access to newer machines if it's necessary. In return for compiling/fixing/etc. your code, I would like a small cut of your profits.

    Also, I've never used Kickstarter, but you could give it a shot for the $99 Apple account..

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    Writing whatever software I want, with nobody to answer to, from the comfort of my own home and getting paid for it is pretty much my master plan in life. "Truly invested" might be an understatement here.

    You probably wouldn't have to fix my code. If it compiles and works under Tiger, then it should compile and work under SL/Lion as long as I stay away from the deprecated APIs.

    I'd be willing to give you a large cut of my profits, but Hell, if you want a smaller cut...

    You can't cover the ADC membership? Could you at least cover a portion of it? The whole $99 is probably out of my reach(unless I start mugging people), but I might be able to scrounge up some part of it if the planets align. I'm not sure it could be anything substantial, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodpkrfrommars View Post
    Writing whatever software I want, with nobody to answer to, from the comfort of my own home and getting paid for it is pretty much my master plan in life. "Truly invested" might be an understatement here.
    Think about that plan a little bit more, to incorporate exception handling!
    I don't think that the real life is going to be that romantic.

    Btw, my master plan is similar (not same, though) too.. but I'm still years away from having to take it seriously.
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    how about going to a local print shop- there may well be a mac on site, you could talk to them. - print is a tight business, they may welcome a little extra revenue, if you could demonstrate safety in your work.
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    Once again I see this and I think "If he is so sure that he has a hit on his hands why doesn't he sell a few things?". This screams problematic to me. If you have a development machine, we can pretty safely assume that $100 USD isn't going to ruin your world. If you are that confident in your idea, why are you willing to part with half of the profits for a $100 USD investment?

    *shrug*

    Anyway, instead of trying to bum some cash from people with no proof you have any idea what you are doing why don't you go the other route?

    I know dozens of people with a "iDev" account; why don't you drop by one of the indie forums and explain your plan to them. If you are willing to go that route you can probably talk several people into putting your first application up for you. If you have the ideas you claim you should easily make enough money to buy your own account in a couple of weeks that you can use for new applications.

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    Show some demos of your other stuff then. Show anything that proves you have the slightest idea in what you are doing.

    Hell if you are as good as you think you are, then $100 isnt big money, but of you are a newb with more chutzpah that ability then its not the investment that you make it out to be

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    Hah. My development machine is a used(and damaged, yay!) original eMac I got a couple of years ago before the reverse mortgage ran out. I'm willing to part with half the profits because that's how badly I need help to buy an ADC membership. I could sell a few things, but seriously, that wouldn't cover it. It probably wouldn't come anywhere close, either.


    There aren't many indie forums with a job board(that I can find), and I'm kind of hesitant to start crossposting this because a copypasta spree will make this seem like even more of a scam than it already does.


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    That's a really clever idea, actually.


    @Fordy


    Should I write some boring demo just to prove I have any idea what I'm doing? I will if it'll help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodpkrfrommars View Post
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    Should I write some boring demo just to prove I have any idea what I'm doing? I will if it'll help.
    Yes.

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