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Well im making a AI program and I heard prolog is good for AI. Anyone here know Prolog? I just dont know what to use, C++ might be hard for AI. My AI program will have databases, the program will have to search the databases for certain phrases or words etc. Can anyone clue me in on if C++ of Prolog is best for AI? Thanks
Learn both, I'm sure there are ways to communicate to C code from prolog so you can write the database stuff in C++ and the real AI code in prolog.Quote:
Originally Posted by coreyt1111
I've done some AI stuff in an embedded script language in Java a long time ago. Was a functional language you could just write in your java programs.
Something like:
Code:Results Result = AIEngine.Execute("(((1 2 +) 3 *) 4 /)");
Try Scheme.
You think I should learn both? Isn't C++ powerful enough to handle it all?
Ahh, Scheme... like a genie bottle. You don't get much, but you can do a lot with the little you have, so long as you don't screw up along the way. At least real hackers don't. :rolleyes:
Then go write your killer app in Assembly. It is also, by your definition, "powerful enough". C++ is fast, but not as powerful as some other languages. Given the scope of today's C++ libraries, you might find that most of the low-level work has already been done by someone else and you can concentrate on the high-level work, and can do all the work in a single language. But high-level languages like Lisp and Prolog might not be as inefficient as Laserve suggests, especially if there is some optimizing compiler or interpreter avaliable for them.Quote:
Isn't C++ powerful enough to handle it all?
I generally consider using many languages to solve a problem as hackish (no compatibility guarantees) and unproductive (abrupt paradigm switches, steep and possibly unnecessary learning curve), and should only be used as a last resort. Other opinions may differ. Don't base your decision on opinions of only a few people. *
EDIT: Unless they happen to be very knowledgable or experienced people. Try members with high post counts, or moderators.
>I just dont know what to use, C++ might be hard for AI.
AI is hard in general, but you'll find that functional languages are much better suited to it.
>Can anyone clue me in on if C++ of Prolog is best for AI?
All things being equal, and only given those two choices, I would say Prolog.
>You think I should learn both? Isn't C++ powerful enough to handle it all?
You're looking at the usual answer to a "should I learn x or y?" question. However, that answer doesn't really apply to your question because your question is for a specific project, not for general knowledge. However, keep in mind that the majority of software glues together modules written in different languages where each module is written in the language best suited to the problem being solved.
>You think I should learn both? Isn't C++ powerful enough to handle it all?
Learn what's useful to you. If you're going to stick with AI programming your whole life, then you may choose Prolog (or some other AI language), but if you think AI is not the only thing you're going to need, then choose C++.
C++ is powerful enough to handle everything. Just that some other languages may be easier to do certain things.
In the same way as you can use a toothbrush to clean the floor, you can use C++ for AI, but it is usually so much easier in Prolog.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxorator
Though in this case I have to say that it is not merely a case of which tool is best for the job. It is the case that you should learn both anyway because it will force you to bend your mind into shape. The two languages are about as different as concievably possible. (or even inconcievably if you have not yet seen Prolog:D )
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog
Looks like a glorified Scheme to me, I don't know.
It isn't. Scheme is functional, Prolog is logic-oriented. They're fundamentally different.
Mine does. A problem should always be divided into subproblems. Then, a different language might offer significant advantages in solving a particular subproblem.Quote:
I generally consider using many languages to solve a problem as hackish (no compatibility guarantees) and unproductive (abrupt paradigm switches, steep and possibly unnecessary learning curve), and should only be used as a last resort. Other opinions may differ.
Look at the real world. Build processes are nearly never written in the same language as the program itself. Many, if not most, compilers have their scanners and parsers written in domain specific languages like Lex and Yacc, and their optimizations in some rule language. Languages differ between backend and frontend (Mozilla, for example, is written in C++ and some C in the backend, but JavaScript in the frontend).
And so on.
Yeah, CornedBee, I seriously need more programming EXP points. Maybe they both look the same to me because they're both so different from C++. Ok, better shut up now. :rolleyes: