This neighborhood is going to the dogs

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08-29-2001
Fordy

This neighborhood is going to the dogs

Sorry to interrupt, but this is just too weird.....

While I have been scanning the board, my attention was drawn to screaming and shouting outside my window.

"I'm going to get my f#####g knife and cut his throat!!" Yelled one female voice......

I looked out only to see 3 girls, all about the age of 11 trying to subdue another girl of about the same age from going off to kill whatever unfortunate man had crossed her path.

Well.....I don’t mean to sound old and wave a stick around or anything, but really....come on......what the hell is this world coming to?? By the look in that girl’s eye - she meant it! She should be enjoying her childhood not planning homicide!!!

I quickly shut the curtains and tried to ignore them - I think they are now as I write trying to get into the pub opposite my house!!

I’ll be glad when the hollidays are over and little buggers go back to school!!!!
08-29-2001
Govtcheez

Another reason I enjoy living in the country...

On the other hand, at school I live in one of the worst cities in the country (we're 4th in auto theft! Smth to be proud of!). Occasionally we hear gunshots nearby... A guy got robbed at gunpoint in my friend's backyard... All sortsa fun stuff!
08-29-2001
Fordy

Well I'm glad we don't have many guns about (yet!!)

Only crazy folk.....
08-29-2001
no-one

yeah mines pretty calm other that some 13 year old having to move out because he molested some younger girl that lived down the street about a year back... sick stuff man.
08-29-2001
doubleanti

[good thing about this board...]

it teaches you [if inadvertently] alot of things about respect and so forth... not to mention *cough* programming *cough*... yeah that whole thing... but uhh... yeah... keeps you sane... but also you then realize that everyone has their own life away from the board and we really *don't* know that we'd get along One Fine Day... but so we hope...
08-29-2001
Theologian

Quote:

Originally posted by Fordy
Well I'm glad we don't have many guns about (yet!!)

Only crazy folk.....

You have really picqued my curiosity here Fordy. What do you mean by "yet".

I thought about asking this for a bit because I don't want to turn this thread into a gun thing but I've decided to ask because I am really interested in your opinion.

From what I see in the media (here in the US)- you folks have some pretty stringent gun control laws and if anything they are only getting tougher.
08-29-2001
Fordy

Yeah gun laws are pretty strict in this country - always have been.

You can't just decide to get a gun and legally own one. You have to have a licence for the type of weapon you want - and I suppose you need a good reason for having it. The only person I know who had such a licence is one of my best friends - he's from out in the sticks and used to be involved with grouse hunts.....etc. According to him they were harsh with regulating it (had to have a secure area to store the guns, regular visits from the police.......).

I myself have never looked into getting a gun - so the info I have is second hand.

As to how guns are prevalent in society – well, there are many more crimes involving guns today than there were say 10 years ago. This really upsets me.

As to the laws getting tougher – well as it stands the problem lies mostly with people who don’t want a gun legally – not those tragic cases where people have been accidentally killed with a legal weapon. Sure, strong gun laws will help here, but you cant stop people shipping guns along with drugs etc…… (not effectively anyway)

At least it’s not as bad as you guys have it in the US, but sometimes I’m worried that it’s a matter of time. Pity……….
08-29-2001
gamegod3001

Quote:

Orginaly posted by Fordy:

I looked out only to see 3 girls, all about the age of 11 trying to subdue another girl of about the same age from going off to kill whatever unfortunate man had crossed her path.

Well.....I don’t mean to sound old and wave a stick around or anything, but really....come on......what the hell is this world coming to?? By the look in that girl’s eye - she meant it! She should be enjoying her childhood not planning homicide!!!

I wonder if that girls parants knew anything about this?

Quote:

[I] oringialy posted by govtcheez[/i} Another reason I enjoy living in the country...

When (and if) you have children, were do you plan to work? There is little chance you will work in the country, you will work in the city. Don't worry your fammily will be nice and secure in the country.
08-30-2001
Govtcheez

Yeah, I do work in the city, and it is possible to live in the country and work in the city.
08-30-2001
gamegod3001

>Yeah, I do work in the city, and it is possible to live in the country and work in the city.<

Yes, I know that but what time do you leave for work in the morning and what time do you get home. Also don't forget, you might need to work overtime.

Now lets figure this
1. you work 8-4 (standard 8 hour day)
2. You drive is an hour and half
So you leave your house

6:30 am

and get home ant 5:30

After a long days work you probbly want to relex for a half hour

So now it is 6

So that leaves 12 hours thiry minuites with your kids? Sorta your are home. But don't forget about sleep (at least 8 hours)

so now your down to 4 hours 30 minutes.

and also you might need to bring your work home or do other things, decreaing your time even move.
08-30-2001
Govtcheez

Alright, instead of speculation, I'll tell you what actually happens on my normal day.

5:30 - Get up
6:15 - Leave for work
7:00 - Get there
3:30 - Come home
4:15 - Arrive home

Factor in the fact that most of this time, my kids (if I had any) would be in school, and this doesn't look that bad.

An hour and a half to work? Blechh, and I thought my drive was bad.... Also, I don't sleep 8 hours a day (that'd be real nice, tho - I normally get in about 6-7 hours)
08-30-2001
Witch_King

Quote:

Yeah, I do work in the city, and it is possible to live in the country and work in the city.

How is the old farm? Any chickens? Do you play the fiddle?
08-30-2001
Govtcheez

Of course I play the fiddle, Dean! It's a requirement once you move out of the city limits! Sorry, no chickens, but last night some of the cows got out and me an' Shep (my old border collie) had to chase 'em down and round 'em up. Ol' Bessie almost got into Mr. Haueter's barn, but Shep got in front of her and she didn't make it. Ma and Pa were so happy!
08-30-2001
gamegod3001

Quote:

Alright, instead of speculation, I'll tell you what actually happens on my normal day.

5:30 - Get up
6:15 - Leave for work
7:00 - Get there
3:30 - Come home
4:15 - Arrive home

Factor in the fact that most of this time, my kids (if I had any) would be in school, and this doesn't look that bad.

An hour and a half to work? Blechh, and I thought my drive was bad.... Also, I don't sleep 8 hours a day (that'd be real nice, tho - I normally get in about 6-7 hours)

Ok, first your job starts very early in the morning, I presumed that the earlist you would work is 8. Second I thougt you said your commute was an hour and half some time so that is my bad. Third you work 8 hours 30 minutes, witch means you are already working OT.

Fourth kids don't go to school for the whole day, until they are at least 7. What are you going to do then? Your wife (if not devorcied) will want to work also. Put them in a day care center. I hate those things, they are way to scheduled for a 2 year old. Also to much importance is placed on being a super genius now instead of letting them be kids.

Fivth even if you never sleep again your kids still shoud be allowd to sleep.

One final note: If you never have kids none of what I said matters.
08-30-2001
Govtcheez

Yeah, but Gamegod, all the stuff is hypothetical... I had a babysitter before I was old enough for school - both of my parents worked... I didn't mind it - there were kids there my own age to play with...

Also, since I don't get paid for lunch (damn management), I only work 8 hours, but that's a mistake that's easily made (my bad this time)
08-30-2001
Witch_King

Gamegod, maybe you should have gone to daycare and learned how to speak English.
08-30-2001
gamegod3001

Yeah, but Gamegod, all the stuff is hypothetical...
What was hypothetical?

>I had a babysitter before I was old enough for school - both of my parents worked... I didn't mind it - there were kids there my own age to play with... <

And both of the parants for the kids you played with worked also. I am gussing they did not. Today world is much diffrent, to much value placed on having a huge house, 3 cars per driving person, 50 acres of land. No matter what the cost.

>Also, since I don't get paid for lunch (damn management), I only work 8 hours, but that's a mistake that's easily made (my bad this time)<
I don't get paid for luch either. If any here does I want your job. My averge day at micdonalds is 8-4 (but this can change) and it say's I am working 8 hours. Despite tacking a half hour lunch break.

>Gamegod, maybe you should have gone to daycare and learned how to speak English.<

French could be my native tounge, I still would not be able to spell.
08-30-2001
Govtcheez

> What was hypothetical? <

"If" I had kids, "if" I sent them to day care, etc., etc.

Actually the kids that were there belonged to the lady babysitting.

> Today world is much diffrent<

C'mon, I'm not that much older than you...

>I don't get paid for luch either. If any here does I want your job. My averge day at micdonalds is 8-4 (but this can change) and it say's I am working 8 hours. Despite tacking a half hour lunch break.<

So, you do get paid for lunch. I didn't mean that the company gave you money to go spend on lunch, I meant that the company pays you for the time during lunch when you're not performing your duties.

>French could be my native tounge, I still would not be able to spell. <

I like that :)
08-30-2001
gamegod3001

>"If" I had kids, "if" I sent them to day care, etc., etc.
But nothing incready out of line right?

>Actually the kids that were there belonged to the lady babysitting.

>> Today world is much diffrent<

C'mon, I'm not that much older than you... <

You were very lucky, you were allowed to be a kid. Most familes who have no parents at home (a good deal of them) send there kids to daycare.

>So, you do get paid for lunch. I didn't mean that the company gave you money to go spend on lunch, I meant that the company pays you for the time during lunch when you're not performing your duties. <
No I don't I get a I have to punch out for lunch.m It says 8 hours on the schedule.

>I like that :)
Thanks but respones to witch craft are alway's way to easy.
08-30-2001
rick barclay

In 1966, at the tender age of 22, I went to work for Prudential
Insurance Co, in Newark, N.J., which is about 45 miles from
my then-country hometown of Freehold.

I had to catch a 6:00 a.m. bus out of Freehold in order to
arrive on time for the 8:00 a.m. start of work. Work ended
at 4:20 p.m. and if my mad dash to the terminal was
successful I could catch a bus which would drop me
off in Freehold around 6:30 p.m.

I pursued this rat race for a full two years, finally quitting
because the free lunches and good pay just weren't worth
the time and trouble of commuting. But it wasn't just the
sucking commute either that convinced me to look for a better
way to live. When you're 22 and single you've got no time
for rise and shine at 5:30, get home at 6:30- 7:00 p.m.
bull......... That routine's for the aged and infirm (married w/chillun). By the time I finished showering and changing, it's
7:30-8:00 at least--where is everybody, all my friends and
stuff? I dunno--gone here or there. I might catch them if I'm
lucky. Screw that--I'd rather be poor and hang with my
friends, than be poor and spend all day commuting to a desk
job in Newark.

Cheez, I'm not intending this in any way to be critical of your
choice of lifestyle--your life is your life, and your situation is
drastically different from mine in 1966, lol. I don't know why
I'm telling you this, except maybe to give you and others another view
from someone a little different. I didn't regret my decision
back then and I have no regrets today--but that's only
because I've managed after all these years to land standing
on my own two feet. I didn't plan it that way; it was just fortunate to happen. I hope it happens for you, too.

rick barclay
08-30-2001
gamegod3001

I could not have said it any better.
08-30-2001
basilisk

i think i must be pretty lucky - i live in a little village in the country and the crime rate is almost non-existent (i think the closest crime i have seen is my car's wing mirror being smashed by some drunken people a year or so ago!!)... The only problem is that in the UK travel is diabolical - the roads are extremely congested and the trains are bad - overcrowded and unreliable...

I used to work in london for two years and it often used to take me two hours to get to work and two hours to get home (sometimes more) plus for most of that time there were no seats on the trains. In the end i gave that up and now mostly work from home. Some of the companies i have done consultancy work for though seem to have a strange work ethic - they think you are not interested in your job or the company unless you are in work before 8am and dont leave the office till 7pm (think its a throwback to the recession in the 80s)
08-30-2001
Fordy

>>The only problem is that in the UK travel is diabolical - the roads are extremely congested and the trains are bad - overcrowded and unreliable...

Too damn true......

>>Some of the companies I have done consultancy work for though seem to have a strange work ethic - they think you are not interested in your job or the company unless you are in work before 8am and don’t leave the office till 7pm (think its a throwback to the recession in the 80s)

Yup - that yuppie work ethic still rules in some areas. Quite often though I have found it is exercised by those who can only offer time to their job - due to a lack of skill & enjoyment. I have been in jobs where I have spent over 14 hours a day hard at work (this want always the case - only when a deadline loomed), but I enjoyed completing what I needed to do and I never begrudged anyone else for doing less hours. Often those that gripe about others not doing as many hours are bitter, disillusioned individuals who will work themselves into an early grave
08-30-2001
Govtcheez

Rick, what were you trying to tell me with that? This isn't sarcasm - I feel like you tried to tell me something important, and I really didn't get it. Sorry....
08-30-2001
gamegod3001

The same thing I have been trying to tell you. (and other people)

You will loose if you choose to live in the country and work in the city.
08-30-2001
Govtcheez

>You will loose if you choose to live in the country and work in the city

I still think that's a giant crock. You can be in the country and still have a shorter commute than 2 hours. I could work in Canada if I was willing to commute that far. There's choices that are a lot closer, buddy.
08-30-2001
rick barclay

Quote:

Originally posted by fordy

...they think you are not interested in your job or the company unless you are in work before 8am and dont leave the office till 7pm (think its a throwback to the recession in the 80s)

That's the way it is today for the management slobs at Nestle
where I work. I'm a union/hourly grunt who works the late
night shift, and often's the times I see the day shift bosses
leaving at 7 p.m., as I'm reporting early for ot. The floor
supervisors used to get overtime, but even they were cut off
about a year ago. They don't even get comp time. There'e a
belt-tightening trend happening now all over the industrial
world, I would guess. Employers are asking for more labor
while instituting across-the-board cutbacks at the same time.
This was a contract year for the union and we very nearly
voted to strike because of the Company's contract demands.
Three years from now when this contract expires, our chief
shop steward says we all better have a lot of $ saved up,
because he doesn't think the Company will back off. Basically,
what the Company wants is to eliminate our Sunday double-
time and to revise our vacation pay to a straight 40-hours per
vacation week instead of the 2.2% of our annual gross, which
is the way it's processed now. Most of us, including me, stand
to lose $5,000+ per year if those two things go through.

rick barclay
08-30-2001
rick barclay

Quote:

Originally posted by Govtcheez

Rick, what were you trying to tell me with that? This isn't sarcasm - I feel like you tried to tell me something important, and I really didn't get it. Sorry....

Nothing, really, cheez. Your situation is a lot different from
mine because you have an old lady. You also live in a
different part of the country, where the commute might not
be so ugly as it is in New Jersey. Your much more settled
right now than I was at 22.

I asked myself the very same question you have as I was
writing that piece) :) , and I really couldn't come up with
anything except to say I hope commuting works for you as
much as it didn't work for me. Many, many, many people here
in Jersey commute more miles than I care to think about. I see
them getting on and off the buses at all hours. I just wonder
about them, that's all--how they can spend so much time
on the road away from their families and all, day after day,
year after year. It's really nothing to get excited about. You
have a plan--go for it. But just remember to keep your eyes
and ears open to what's happening around you, and if you
ever do have doubts about the course you've chosen, you're
still young enough that you can change it if need be. The main
thing I think I'm telling you, pal, is to just try to be as happy
in the future as you are now.

rick barclay
08-30-2001
Witch_King

Nestle? I've heard of Nestle Chocolate Syrup. I used to make chocolate milk that way.
08-30-2001
rick barclay

How do you make it now?
08-30-2001
Witch_King

I just buy the ready made stuff. Lucerine or Dairy Maid, etc.
08-30-2001
rick barclay

Oh...well...enjoy...
08-30-2001
Witch_King

No, but seriously is the company you work for the same company that does those commercials with the rabbit? I used to drink that stuff every single morning when I was a kid.
08-30-2001
rick barclay

If it's the Nestle Quik wabbit, it is. We don't make Quik
where I work, though--Tasters Choice and Nestea.

rick barclay

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