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Im very new to programming, and have finally learned the C language fairly well and have made my own graphics functions, but now I want to move on. I was wondering if Allegro will work with Borland 3.1 C++ compiler, and if so, is it good for starters. If not, which is a good one to start with? Any suggestions? Thanx.
>Borland 3.1 C++ compiler
Why not upgrade? Borland offers the C++ 5.5 compiler for free download. I don't know if Allegro will work on 3.1, but if it does it is an excellent library to get started with.
-Prelude
yes, Allegro is excellent for a beginner, and even for intermediate programmers. I'm going to be moving into something else in a bit more than likely, probably DirectX, since my doesn't support OpenGL too well. I'm going to hold out until I get my RPG done b4 I switch over, DirectX 9 will be out by then, so I can start out with the best version. However, again, my card won't the new features anyway :rolleyes:.
Yes, Allegro is really easy to use. Try my game 'SpaceWars' (link in sig) to see what I made with it :)Quote:
Originally posted by Tommaso
is it good for starters?
The above game is great! I played it for an hour, and it was still fun after that. Most home made games I have seen don't even compair. Great work! I hope that I can create something as good someday. If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been programming? And, how ong did it take from beginning to end? Thanks!
Thanks :)Quote:
Originally posted by Tommaso
The above game is great! I played it for an hour, and it was still fun after that. Most home made games I have seen don't even compair. Great work! I hope that I can create something as good someday.
I started programming in QBASIC when I was 10, and in C++ when I was 14 (I'm 17 now). Don't ask me for an exact estimate, but the filedate on the very first thing I did with Allegro (which failed horribly :D) was 'Wednesday, 29 May 2002, 11:00:19 a.m'. I released SW1.0 on the 6th of September 2002. You do the maths :)Quote:
Originally posted by Tommaso
If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been programming? And, how ong did it take from beginning to end? Thanks!
Now I'm working in OpenGL for SpaceWars II, and it's starting to look quite nice :). Don't hold your breath for a release any time soon, though :D
I'm gonna have to recommend SDL, but I'm not sure how easy it is to get working with that particular compiler.
It's pretty easy if you use Visual C++ or even DevC++ in Windows, or just use gcc if you use Linux.
I've never tried Allegro, but lots of commercial games used SDL for Linux, and I'm learning it now. It is pretty easy, so far.
Will Allegro work with Borland 3.1?
Allegro has had a hard time running on any borland systems, but by 4 they were boasting support for 5.5 free command line. I would recommend SDL too, which works great with the free compiler Dev-C++. http://cone3d.gamedev.net has some tutorials on setting it up, and SDL is really really easy to use. (So easy I tell anybody that they can contact me if they need any help.)
I envy its forum, many active ones~
Is SDL compatible with Borland 3.1?
If so, I think I will choose that one, just by what I have heard about it.
Why can't you just update your compiler like everyone has asked, here I've done most of the leg work for you and given you the links to the fore mentioned compilers, borland 3.1 is way outta date cheif.
http://www.borland.com/products/down...cbuilder.html#
http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
Yes, it is good for beginners (though I've never tried it :D). But why doesn't anybody try WINDOWS GDI?
Some people don't run Windows. That may be hard for you to understand, but it's true.Quote:
Originally posted by Hunter2
Yes, it is good for beginners (though I've never tried it :D). But why doesn't anybody try WINDOWS GDI?
SDL works on Linux, Mac, Windows, BeOS, and other platforms you've never heard of.
SDL is easy for beginners, but it's certainly powerful enough for commercial games. Look at Loki and Epic MegaGames.
But most people do, and even though GDI is a viable solution for making a square appear on the screen, it is never ever mentioned. I never thought GDI was that evil!Quote:
some people don't run Windows.
My question was, "Can Allegro work with Borland 3.1?" You gave me good links and I appreciate it, but still my question remains the same - ok chief?
allegro is easier than win32 GDI
Ok since you're not getting a direct answer to your exact question, you are left with three options.Quote:
My question was, "Can Allegro work with Borland 3.1?" You gave me good links and I appreciate it, but still my question remains the same - ok chief?
a) Download Allegro and try using it with Borland 3.1 to find the answer out for yourself
b) Download Allegro and the new version of Borland, then try using Allegro with that version of Borland.
c) Keep waiting for somebody to give you an answer, because you are either (a) too lazy or (b) too stubborn to try one of the two other options.
Good luck with the options available to you.
The reason that GDI is rarely mentioned or for that matter never mentioned is simple. GDI isn't a common API being used by a lot of the members here. Therefore, the members tend to recommend APIs that they use themselves. This behavior holds true in all instances of life; a person usually recommends a product that they use themself. See how simple the reason is?:)Quote:
even though GDI is a viable solution for making a square appear on the screen, it is never ever mentioned.
Not to mention that the common APIs mentioned (Allegro, DirectX, SDL) are better for using with making actual games, rather than just trying to display an image to the screen. Some people may only ask how to display an image, but a lot of them have the true intent down the line to take that knowledge and to make a game with it. So giving a person the recommendation to an API that is more adapt for game developing is smart.
In conclusion the primary reasons why GDI doesn't get mentioned are as follows:
1) It is not a common API being used
2) It is not as adapt to game developing as other APIs are
Allegro requires a 32 bit compiler and Borland 3.1 is 32bit not.Quote:
My question was, "Can Allegro work with Borland 3.1?" You gave me good links and I appreciate it, but still my question remains the same - ok chief?
:D Oh, that makes sense. Maybe that's why I'm arguing the case for GDI :pQuote:
a person usually recommends a product that they use themself
Yes, but you are, also, arguing the fact that we aren't mentioning GDI.Quote:
Oh, that makes sense. Maybe that's why I'm arguing the case for GDI
Say wha?... I'm arguing the case for GDI and I'm also arguing the fact that we aren't mentioning GDI... is there a contradiction I'm missing? I don't get it :(Quote:
Yes, but you are, also, arguing the fact that we aren't mentioning GDI