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Should i start learning c++ using the c++ programming language book, which was written by the creator of c++, should i use the tutorial on this forum or should i read jumping into c++, the book on this forum, written by alex allain?
How can i completely learn c++?
do you have 10 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai
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Originally Posted by Elkvis
Can someone please answer these questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai
the tutorials on this forum will give you a great start. any book in the book recommendations thread will get you even further. to "completely learn" C++ takes a very long time. I've been doing it off and on for over 15 years, and I've been doing it full time at my job for 5 years, and I still wouldn't say I completely know the language.
Do not even think of using think book book by that creator of C++ it is not suitable for a beginner.
IMHO, ten years is not enough. I've yet to encounter anyone who knows C++ completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkvis
I think it actually depends on how interested someone is.You can learn most of the language within a short time if you are really interested and you are not doing it so as to get employment or material gain. It needs dedication.
Thank you very much. In which order do i need to learn/read what you recommend?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkvis
Get a book per Elkvis' recommendation. Start at chapter 1. Read the text, highlight, take notes. Type out each example, and do all of the exercises. If you don't understand something, spend some time thinking about it and practicing it until it starts to make sense. When you get further along, it wouldn't hurt to go back and fill in any gaps in your knowledge by re-reading and making sure you understand all of the concepts.
I like the 3rd post on this page, by daved: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/cplus...endations.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Matticus
In which order do i need to read the books recommended in the 3rd post?
2nd: I also like the 2nd post on this page. Is The C++ Standard Library: A Tutorial and Reference by Nicolai M. Josuttis the same as, or nearly the same as:
ISO+IEC+14882-2011?
Do u think i will need to read ISO+IEC+14882-2011? It looks like a nightmare!
I figured out i will have to read them in the sequence they are explained, i will start learning within 3 months, i hope. Can i program hardware with c++?
He means that you have to get EXPERIENCE to learn it completely...and he is something more than rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai
A tutorial and reference to the C++ standard library is very different from the C++ standard itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai
Not yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai
what is the latest edition of accelerated c++? I've got myself the pdf, but i don't know which edition it is. As a matter of fact, i don't know how many editions of this books exist. Can someone please answer this question?
2nd. Many people recommend thinking in c++ By Eckel, but i've found 3 books with this tittle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai
the 1st was: Thinking in c++ by Eckel, introduction to standard c++, volume one (2nd edition), written in 2000.
The 2nd was: thinking in c++, volume 2 : pratical programming, by Eckel and chuck allison, written in 2003.
The third was: thinking in c++, written by Eckel, released in 1995.
Which one of these 3 books is thinking in c++ which is recommended by many people?
Honestly, I suggest that you just start with Accelerated C++. If you find that you cannot learn with it, then look for alternatives. Don't go looking for alternatives first, or you'll never get started with learning.
thx, but i'm currently adding the books i need to read to my collection. I've already got most of the suggested books, except 2. Thats y i' m askin, so, no offense and with all the respect, here goes my question again, please help me if you can, i need 2 more books and if I find the one i'm referring 2 in this question, i'll only have 1 left to find. So here goes my question again:Quote:
Originally Posted by laserlight
2nd. Many people recommend thinking in c++ By Eckel, but i've found 3 books with this tittle.
the 1st was: Thinking in c++ by Eckel, introduction to standard c++, volume one (2nd edition), written in 2000.
The 2nd was: thinking in c++, volume 2 : pratical programming, by Eckel and chuck allison, written in 2003.
The third was: thinking in c++, written by Eckel, released in 1995.
Which one of these 3 books is thinking in c++ which is recommended by many people?
Yes, you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai
so, i can make an entire os using c++ only?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia
No, you can't. Nor can you with C.
There are some parts, such as context switching, that must be done in assembly.
I've heard ppl sayin combining asm and c++=natural disaster. But i wanna make my own OS. So u r tellin me i can combine c++ with asm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia
Thx in advance, Elysia.
Some things simply cannot be done in C++, such as saving and restoring registers. This needs to be done in assembly.
But you don't want to write the entire OS in assembly. That would be a fallacy.
So write what you need in assembly and the rest in C++. C++ is a low-level language in some parts, like C, such that it allows you to mix and match assembly. It needs be done carefully, but it is possible, and for an OS, it is absolutely critical that you do it.
not true at all. most C++ compilers actually allow you to add inline assembly language right in your C++ source files. look at the documentation to learn how.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai