RoD

I'm suprised there is no thread on this already. Its not that big of a deal to me, but i never understood exactly what his standpoint in religion was/is. I dont follow religion closely or claim to know anything about it, but what does this actually mean for the community/world? Is it like our preident being shot?

Discuss.

ober

There already was a thread, and it was removed.

Shot?? He died. There is a difference... it's not like they have terms they are expected to fulfill. Almost all of them just die and then they get replaced. Hell, the current one is #243 and only a handful of them have stepped down on their own (that I know of).

It doesn't mean anything for the world except that some new old guy will be saying the same stuff the previous old guy did. And in another 5 or 10 years, we'll go through this again. The current pope just happened to live a bit longer than the normal ones.

Govtcheez

> Is it like our preident being shot?

Yes, the citizens of Popesylvania that he ruled over are marching in the street right now.

That was a pretty retarded analogy.

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RoD

Why was it removed? Guess it went the way of tradition cprog religion fighting lol. Yea the anology was bad, thnx for the info ober.

Thantos

There was a thread I started on Friday when it was reported (incorrectly) he had died. But he wasn't dead yet and the thread was going down hill quickly.

Since I know the majority of cprog member's are incapable of having a civilized thread where religon is even remotly concerned I decided not to repost when he had died.

Darkness

I think you are right Thantos, and the irony is certain members were getting upset at you for some comments that came across as insensitive. So you are right, no civilized discussion will likely come of this.

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ober

And you were getting upset at everyone and handing out red candy left and right. Let's watch who we call civilized, eh?

Darkness

It was mutual, and I certainly didn't do it first. Well except to thantos, but I was just returning the favor to you ober

But, if I cared all that much about rating I wouldn't have voiced my opinion in the first place.

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axon

you don't know how wrong you are Ob. You said on another thread that you're sick of hearing about it, but you've never really listened...maybe you should take some time and read (watch or listen) about Karol Wojtyla the person, and what he did for the world.

That is all I am going to say about that, I really don't want to argue about this at this time of sadness.


P.S. as many of you know, I am an agnostic, which, as you can see, doesn't mean I can't respect religious people.

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InvariantLoop

Did you know that the Vatican is not part of Italy? It is an independent state with its own police force, mail system etc, and the Pope is the head of state.

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Govtcheez

Would you respect him that much if he wasn't Polish?

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Thantos

Yes, yes I did. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/vt.html

Well I know for me his nationality meant little more to me then a trivia factoid. I think his actions meant a lot more then not being an Italian. Of course seeing how Axon is Polish I guess thats a fair question for him

Actually the fact that he wasn't Italian has more significance now since it could either open the door to non europeans or send the papacy back to Italy.

On the news they were mentioning that there is an online betting side that is laying odds on who'll become pope.

ober

I'm still waiting for the reality show. Where is Jeff Probst when you need him?

Thantos

Give it 5-10 years for the next election. They probably didn't foresee the game show chance.

SMurf

Certain things about the way people reacted to his death disgusted me. Like some people were saying "Oh well, let's hope the next pope will be more liberal when it comes to condoms..."

DUH! Roman Catholicism has abstinence at its core. What good are condoms to you if you're having sex to conceive?!?

Why the hell are some people part of religions they don't seem to agree with I'll never know.

(For reference, I don't generally hold any faith. I'm too argumentative. )