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The Death of Net Neutrality in America

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    The Death of Net Neutrality in America

    Appeals court rules against FCC's right to protect 'net neutrality' | Technology | theguardian.com

    Well, folks, it was fun while it lasted.

    It's still not too late for this to be overturned ... but somehow I doubt that will happen.

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    They have the ability to be evil but it does not necessarily mean they will be. We shall see.

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    With all of the revelations that have come to light in the past year, I doubt they have anything but their own best interests in mind.

    I am not saying you're wrong ... but I've had too many of my pessimistic viewpoints validated of late to agree.

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    “Today’s decision will not change consumers’ ability to access and use the internet as they do now," said the company in a statement. "The court’s decision will allow more room for innovation, and consumers will have more choices to determine for themselves how they access and experience the internet."
    Sure.

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    America does not see the internet as a basic utility. If it was, it would be regulated like one. I think the court was right in its decision, if I can be honest, but we could make the internet into a utility, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    America does not see the internet as a basic utility. If it was, it would be regulated like one. I think the court was right in its decision, if I can be honest, but we could make the internet into a utility, too.
    The problem is that this has no benefit to the the consumers, despite what the carriers say. Bittorrent suddenly considered "unwanted traffic" because it's illegal or something (it's not)? Then expect 1kb per second "shaping". ssh only used by crackers? Well, make that 1kb/s as well. Your website is not in the top 100? Shape that as well. We don't like you? Shape. Unpopular view? Shape.
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    Bittorrent suddenly considered "unwanted traffic" because it's illegal or something (it's not)? Then expect 1kb per second "shaping".
    It's already happening. (Besides, you're going to have a tough time convincing me that the only thing you got from bittorrent was copies of Libre Office or a linux distro or something)

    ssh only used by crackers? Well, make that 1kb/s as well.
    I never owned anything that uses ssh, so it doesn't matter.

    Your website is not in the top 100? Shape that as well.
    DDOS Alexa forever then, they won't know anything.

    Unpopular view? Shape.
    This one is hilarious because it implies America has a history of censorship.


    Maybe I'm being a bit self centered, but if America wants the internet to be a utility then all it literally has to do is pass the appropriate law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    It's already happening. (Besides, you're going to have a tough time convincing me that the only thing you got from bittorrent was copies of Libre Office or a linux distro or something)
    The only things I've ever torrented are Linux distros. Why is that hard to believe?

    I never owned anything that uses ssh, so it doesn't matter.
    Well, I do so it matters to me. You've never used git over ssh?

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    Wait, does this mean I'll no longer be able to just torrent whatever I want? But... But... Maybe internet piracy is ruining the economy... Lol nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    It's already happening. (Besides, you're going to have a tough time convincing me that the only thing you got from bittorrent was copies of Libre Office or a linux distro or something)
    Bittorrent has legitimate uses, but can be used to break the law, just like a gun, a knife, a car, or a shovel. As such, it should be permitted, and violations of relevant law should be prosecuted, not the simple use of the medium.

    I never owned anything that uses ssh, so it doesn't matter.
    it doesn't matter to you. you are one among 300 million americans, many of which use SSH for its intended purpose: remote system administration, and for legitimate reasons. see my answer above.

    This one is hilarious because it implies America has a history of censorship.
    We do. The fact that you ignore it does not make it go away. ever heard of the PMRC?

    Maybe I'm being a bit self centered, but if America wants the internet to be a utility then all it literally has to do is pass the appropriate law.
    You are, but that's only human. I agree that a law needs to be made protecting net neutrality. The FCC may not currently have legal authority to regulate it, but a case could easily be made for the federal government's constitutional authority to do so, since the internet is clearly and obviously an integral component of interstate commerce.
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    Ever hear of the PMRC?
    I've actually never heard of them. They were formed when I was born. Not that it would excuse my ignorance. It just means that I grew up, started listening to music, and never really questioned "parental advisory" stickers. I did not know that they actually removed rock albums from stores and stuff either.

    I don't know, the more I read the more I struggle to care. It seems like whatever they're trying to do, it's not really working. I mean, I can still find rock in stores (or at least what I know is rock; my opinion on music genres doesn't really matter).
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