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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomotap View Post
    That only holds so far as other governments are willing to play to the backwards facing political pressure.
    Well so far the US has most european countries dancing to their tune, Sweden is an outright prostitute at this point.

    I realize that most governments probably will, to a point, in the short term, but if other governments fight such nonsense themselves the internet should be safe despite nonsense like "SOPA" where it all begins with the citizens of other countries.

    Let me put it this way, everyone should be watching their civil liberties. The US gets the finger in this thread, but many governments have laws in proposal which would seek to control what you see and do online much beyond the reach of traditional law.
    I completely agree. The most recent example is Camerons "porn"-filter.
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    Lost my favorite email service earlier this month.

    Interesting what he said, or could say, about the situation on the lavabit | homepage.
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    That's really mysterious.

    I'm curious for completely separate reasons, though: What made Lavabit different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    That's really mysterious.

    I'm curious for completely separate reasons, though: What made Lavabit different?
    Lavabit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They provided privacy for their users, more so than conventional mail services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomotap View Post
    many governments have laws in proposal which would seek to control what you see and do online much beyond the reach of traditional law.
    Indeed. England is about to (if they haven't yet) block pornography on the internet, using traffic filtering, in the name of "protecting children." I can't figure out how it got to the point where parents just don't care to be parents anymore, and expect the government to do the parenting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    I'm curious for completely separate reasons, though: What made Lavabit different?
    Apparently, Snowden used an account with Lavabit to communicate with his contacts in Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elkvis View Post
    England is about to (if they haven't yet) block pornography on the internet, using traffic filtering, in the name of "protecting children."
    It's worth mentioning that you can opt-out of this filter (unlike most state sponsored firewalls). There's at least one ISP that automatically opts you out when using their services, and requires you to stay out. AFAIK, this is perfectly legal, so I don't think England's porno filter is oppressive against free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post
    I'm not an expert in modern greek history, but i can tell you that Greece remained a dictatorship until 1974
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    What made Lavabit different?
    Lavabit was nice in that they would encrypt your email on the server. If someone sent you email using ssl and you received it using ssl, you could have a form of email encryption. It's hard to get normal users to use email encryption.

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