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    Quote Originally Posted by manasij7479 View Post
    You aren't bothered by dozens of scripts of this magnitude running every time you visit a page?
    Why would I be?
    1) It's fewer bytes than most images, so insignificant bandwidth wise. And it's still smaller than the jquery script, which if you want to use the web uncrippled, you are probably downloading one of those a few dozen times a day.
    2) I'm not going to try and decipher it all, but I don't think it does that much. Tracking is not very complex client-side. In any case, I guarantee it uses less processing power than your average flash ad, which I also leave on, or for that matter, just plain rendering a fresh page. Most of the time firefox doesn't use much CPU at all, AFAICT.
    3) JS is very limited in what it can do, so there are no security issues, not to mention it is not in the best interest of the people who do this to proliferate problems. And if they are "un-nice", blocking tracking is voluntary (although I believe there have been some laws proposed). So if someone wants to ignore your "don't track me", they can, unless you completely disable cookies and javascript. Which would make this site, amongst most others, infeasible.

    The only reason I can see to object to tracking is you don't like whoever gathering information on you. And I honestly don't care about that, because it is very mundane information.

    Err.. All the attribute strings are in red... Is that normal?
    Red is always an error on the Console, I think. Can you cut n' paste them?
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    ...unless you completely disable cookies and javascript. Which would make this site, amongst most others, infeasible.
    Well.. I disable those selectively.. that seems to work well for me.(..sometimes even about 50% speedup )
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    That is a very obscure error IMO.

    XUL stuff is internal to mozilla (I think that is the code in blue? It also could be js), a little googling implies to me this might be a bug in your build (esp. since I don't get those at all):

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636367
    "XUL box for a element contained an inline #text child, forcing all its children to be wrapped in a block" - Firebug | Google Groups

    Of course, that doesn't mean it is the cause of your problems. Someone familiar with the way vBulletin fits together might be able to say, hmm, well this could result in that, etc...
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    @anduril462 googletagservices.com is used by DoubleClick for Publishers. It was probably added when I updated the ad tags to take advantage of recently released asynchronous loading.

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    A trivial issue... but I thought you might like to know.

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    Weird edit control behavior does occur in IE 9. Seems to be a bug related to being on or near the last line in the edit control. Introduced before 4.1.8 but not sure exactly when.

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    If I could just chime in here I would like to add that the new version made the site on an iPad look a lot better, at least in Opera for iPad.

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    The edit control bug is a huge issue. It makes copying / pasting code from other sources extremely difficult and it makes it hard to edit a post.

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    I'm looking into the edit box behavior, but I'm having some trouble reproducing an exactly equivalent behavior. Based on the comment about pasting code, I tried doing a paste, and I did find that if I take text, paste it, and then use the arrows, I can only scroll within the region of the pasted text.

    @VirtualAce Is this consistent with your experience?

    @everyone-else-with-this-problem Is this consistent with yours?

    Edit: OK, I just reproduced the scroll-lock like behavior in Firefox that anduril462 reported.

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    Ok, after some additional investigation I've found that there is a known issue in vBulletin 4.1.8 and FF8: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/show...=1#post2234563

    The bug number is VB-13545 (you must be a vBulletin customer to be able to log in to their bug tracker or I'd link to it). It looks like it will be fixed as part of vBulletin 4.1.10.

    @VirtualAce I'm wondering if the issue you experienced is either related or (probably more likely) is related to what I was seeing with copy and paste as well. It looks like the edit control treats copied text as "separate" from the main text for the purpose of scrolling, and clicking outside the pasted area (and sometimes hitting backspace at the very start of the pasted area) seemed to help.

    By the way, you can change your editor style under http://cboard.cprogramming.com/profi...do=editoptions (scroll to Miscellaneous options). This might help if you're running into a lot of issues.

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    Very minor, but this page renders wrong because of the code in OP's post. getting out of for loop

    I noticed it after I got a like, if that helps, but I think it was always there. And it happens in Firefox 8 and IE8 on my computer.

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    I don't know when this bug arrived, but if you start the first line of a code block with whitespace, it will strip the whitespace when it adds the line numbers:
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    Even if you leave a blank line first ([code]<NEWLINE><whitespace>1 ) like I did here, it will strip everything up to the 1. Now the newline first lets it keep the four spaces I inserted when it shows me the code, until it recolors it and adds the line numbers. Then it strips not only the starting newline, but also the four white spaces before the first 1.


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    Ok seems like there are some new issues with a recent update. Often times I must re-edit a post b/c in code sections the edit control has inserted spaces in my code where I did not have any. Also when editing the post some of the lines of text appear to be duplicated but after submitting they are not duplicated. Very strange issue. Only seems to happen when editing a post and does not happen every time a post is edited. Perhaps it occurs only in posts with code sections or quotations with text following those sections.

    EDIT: Tried to use the enhanced interface and it did not work at all. It only works on new posts. Anytime I tried to edit clicking on Save or GoAdvanced did nothing. I could not edit posts with the enhanced editor.
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    @Quzah Thanks, that looks like a bug in the JS rendering code. I'll make a note to look into it. If you're desperate, I imagine adding a // comment in the first line would solve the problem.

    Code:
    // a beautiful string of ones
         1
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    @VirtualAce There haven't been any vBulletin updates that would affect editing since this one (4.1.9 was supposedly mobile-only). However, 4.1.10 just came out, and it's supposed to fix a lot of bugs (including the one you ran into earlier) so I'm going to upgrade tonight. I'd love to know if it solves the issues you ran into.

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