Thread: Steve Jobs dead at age 56

Originally Posted by MK27

I also think it is evidence of the fact that Apple officially, and completely, disregards issues such as environmental or social responsibility. AFAICT, no one would bother to contest that, a fact I find slightly alarming considering what a "hip and cool" thing Apple products are considered to be, and what a great guy people think Jobs was. So I can infer that many many people's idea of greatness is to not give a ........, and cater exclusively to a moneyed elite. Like being a nihilist fashion designer, if you get my point.

I don't think so many people think he's a great guy. In fact, if ever there was some way of making a pool, I'd put my money that it's a minority. Controversial people tend to draw vocal supporting minorities.

Otherwise you are right. Many many people don't give a damn. I don't on many issues, let me say that upfront. Like how environmental conscious Apple is, for instance. I never felt the allure for those causes. But if Apple was on the business of killing animals (like McDonalds or Genus) or destroying good arable land I probably would give a damn. That said, the conditions of work at Foxconn greatly troubled me and that's one of my primary causes. And the fact I never bought as much as a paper clip from Apple, gives me no comfort on this matter.

So, the question I put you is this: You own an iPhone. How do you justify this? Ignoring for one moment that we are having this conversation, what would be there stopping me from thinking you are one of "many many people's idea of greatness is to not give a ........, and cater exclusively to a moneyed elite"? Answer that, and you will probably have answered it for everyone else. And in the end of the day you will come out with just a small minority of people who in fact don't give a damn about anything.

I don't buy apple products, mainly because I'm dirt poor. However, I don't hate the man, sure he did not "invent" anything "new" he just added things together, but when it comes down to it, that’s what most inventions now days are. Putting something made before with something else.
As for him making you have to use apple only, its no deferent then any company that has a contract for anything that says only use us, he was not the first one to do it and he wont be the last. It is a business deal, you can call him evil but then most business men are evil by that logic.

I don't hate the man, and I could care less that he made it where I can’t download something form some one else because he wants you to use his things so he can make money .
Hell, it’s a smart move on his part and its not like he was the ONLY one to do it, it was a standard long before he came around in other things.