I've been kinda intrigued by the whole iPhone app development and I would like to try to mess with it but unfortunately dont have a mac and can't afford one either at this time. Is there any way to install Mac OS on a PC?
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I've been kinda intrigued by the whole iPhone app development and I would like to try to mess with it but unfortunately dont have a mac and can't afford one either at this time. Is there any way to install Mac OS on a PC?
Search on hackintosh.
You'd be better off running it in a virtual machine.
No virtual machine I know can run MacOS from a windows host.
Instead our friend should have googled: How To Develop iPhone Apps on Windows
Also google-able. There is a third-party bootloader that allows me to run a legal copy of Snow Leopard on a VirtualBox VM (albeit with mono sound. :().Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario F.
But *shhhhhhhh*!!!!! I don't want Steve Jobs to know I'm not paying for his marked up hardware.
Yeah. That's more or less the point. Hackintoshes are becoming somewhat common, but they are a breach of the EULA, and I suspect also a breach of the DMCA protection. So, discussing in any more detail that approach over here should probably be avoided.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
Well if that's the point, then to my understanding any attempt to develop iOS applications outside of OSX is also against their EULA. In fact, one of the suggestions (in fact, dubbed "one of the most effective") in the link you provided is to build a "hackintosh" computer. ... and that's with unlicensed software. I leave it to the moderators to decide what can and can't be discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario F.
It is. Not for any other reason other than the fact the EULA stipulates any application must be developed in a Macintosh computer. Insane... but that's what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
And? I think I made the point the idea is to not dwell too much into it because of the legal issues. Not that the OP shouldn't get an answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
Not before someone points out the legal issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
Alright, fine. I get your point. I just don't think that my explicitly pointing out what was implied in every post prior to it creates a bigger issue for anyone. We're all big boys and girls here and can all draw conclusions about the morality of our suggestions. There's no need to bicker about it so let's not give moderators a totally different reason to close the thread.
Oh! I see the confusion now. That wasn't my intention. I was following on your post when I wrote that. Wasn't arguing with you. Quite on the contrary; You were calling the attention to the illegal aspect of this and I was trying to make that clearer.
Well, on the subject of it. I hardly find it illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario F.
I mean, yes, it's against the law, but that to me is an insult. I'm not one of those people that believe all software should be open source and should freely be modified and redistributed by the community with no true benefit to the original creator. I do however feel that any software capable of running on a hardware platform with no modification to the software should legally be allowed to run on that hardware and I believe that any piece of hardware should be legally able to run any software capable of running on it (PS3 I'm looking at you).
Don't try to sell software on a disk and tell me that I'm only allowed to run it on your hardware when I'm fully capable of running it on my own and don't charge me for a piece of hardware that is more than capable of what you're running on it and tell me I'm not allowed to use it to its full capabilities...
... but all of this is way off topic, I suppose, and I'll save it for another discussion.
Amen to that!Quote:
Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
>> I mean, yes, it's against the law, but that to me is an insult.
On that we agree entirely. Apple alone deserves a case study on sociology. It's quite amazing that so many people, so vocal on FOSS issues or so adamant about their civil rights and so clustered around issues as unfair copyright laws, choose to purchase from one of the least open companies in the market.
It's really a case of not putting one's wallet where their mouth is. There's a level of hypocrisy here -- or perhaps more adequately, consumer greed. Reminds me how Finding Nemo triggered an unprecedented worldwide search for pet tropical fishes. There's a large void between what we yell at the top of our lungs and what we actually do about it.
I digress...
Apple success in the mobile platform may eventually force them into opening up some of their most restrictive practices. It's not much different from early Microsoft practices who, by virtue of their success, eventually saw themselves against the wall over monopoly concerns. If Apple mobile sector eventually ends up dominating the market, sooner or later they will be forced into submission by pro-competitive laws. If they don't end up dominating the market, then it won't matter.