Emily Howell -- AI composer to release album

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    I'm not sure what "darkly romantic" is. Must be something new. But speaking of romantic composers on the piano without saying the name of Liszt is grounds for closing this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    I'm not sure what "darkly romantic" is. Must be something new. But speaking of romantic composers on the piano without saying the name of Liszt is grounds for closing this thread.
    Umm, I guess like Rachmaninov would be "darkly" Romantic and Chopin "brightly" Romantic. Again, I am not a huge classical aficionado, but there is some beautiful stuff written for the piano, fer sure. Romanticism is pretty darn abstract concept in music anyway, for the most part it seems to me just a label for a particular trend from a particular era.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    And knowing human beings as I think I know, any success in this department could mean people would soon enough start qualifying computer AI generated music as some form of art and rate it on its musical "quality". That's the type of people I'm afraid of.
    To do that I think you would have to be able to clearly delineate the two. Based on the stuff I heard from Emily Howell, and since it is played by real people on real instruments the same as you would perform any composer's work, I would say it would be impossible for anyone to tell the difference in a blind test. Maybe not impossible, but there is not a distinct difference. So there could not be a separate category for the AI's.

    However, if the program had been designed to perform via machinery music that would be impossible for real people to play, then I could see what you are talking about happen. I suppose that would be a very specialized genre and as you imply, not to everyone's taste. Although even in that case a human could compose such music too (I think they already do).
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    It doesn't matter to me if making music is algorithmic. It's like saying we wont or can't change the algorithm somehow, intentionally or not. Failing the Turing test is equally unimportant.

    Consider how digital imaging has changed graphical art. You go on the internet and find something like minus, and it's quaint enough to be completely refreshing because the artist drew and colored on canvas like almost no one does now. Things are going to be just the same when people get used to accepting a machine's output as music.

    Do artists deserve machines to help them create? Absolutely. Not knowing an instrument or good singing doesn't preclude people from writing prose that could benefit music: hence vocaloid, or synthesizers, or ...auto-tune. Hmm. How do we explain to ourselves using Emily Howell that we are creating music? Performance is the whole art? I'm not ready to admit that.

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