The e3 presentation does make it look better than the video
in the OP.
Still, lay off the Wii dude. That is a threat.
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So far, Nintendo's 3DS announcement is the most
technologically impressive. 3D camera, ability to watch
3D movies, improved graphics over DS. All without
having to wear glasses.
While the 3DS is clearly a gimmick that will not take off very far, it's still cool enough of a gimmick that I just might buy one should it be priced as reasonably as all Nintendo products have in the past.
Okay. Just like dual screens was a gimmick. And here we are,
130 million units sold in 6 years and the #2 best selling gaming
machine of all time (right behind PS2 which had a 4 year head
start).
Nintendo knows the market and has more success in it than
any other company.
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Nintendo knows the market and has more success in it than
any other company.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say ALL motion sensing technology for both computers and consoles amount to expensive gimmicks that get old fast.
The only one I really like on the PC is the TrackIR b/c it is very useful for flight simulators and combat flight sims. Nothing beats not having to use the hat switch to look around when a bogey is on your six spraying gunfire at you or your opponent fired an IR or radar homing missile and it has your name on it. Nothing beats that. It's also nice in FSX when you can look around by moving your head - very good practice for the real deal since during my lessons I pretty much had to keep my head on a swivel at all times.
But the difference between TrackIR and the other gimmicks is that TrackIR serves a purpose and solves a problem every flight simmer has experienced for decades. The Wii took away my controller and replaced it with a half-baked motion sensing gimmick which adds nothing to the experience (except annoyance when the thing doesn't read right) and yet no one ever asked Nintendo to take away our controllers. Now people are trying to take away the mouse and keyboard yet no one in the PC world is complaining about the mouse or the keyboard. We like our mice and our keyboards. I work with touch screens everyday on our embedded systems and thankfully we have some debug only keyboard shortcuts so we don't have to use the stupid screen all the time.
That Track IR nonsense has always looked lame to me. You
move your head, but have to keep your eyes straight at the
screen still. That's not natural. Seems like it would be better
just to get 5 monitors and 5 video cards and create a semi-
circle around you.
TrackIR does feel more natural with 2 or 3 monitors since you do have to move your head. However you can adjust the sensitivity so you don't have to move your head as much to look left/right up/down in the game.
And Zelda is every bit as glorious as one would have hoped!
YouTube - The Legend of Zelda: The Skyward Sword Trailer - E3 2010
I'll say that and I won't feel nearly as bad doing so... motion sensing is a gimmick. It is a poor way to interface in gaming and a terrible way to interface in anything else...
Motion-sensing technology has existed in some form or another in arcades and in the home for almost as long as I can remember... it hasn't taken off... it's not taking off now, it's just trendy for the time being... the people who think motion sensing is the future of video games are the same people who think 3D is the future of movies because Avatar was such a big hit and everyone is making 3D movies now. Try talking about the future of movies with the creators of Jaws 3D. They're gimmicks... people get excited for a while and then they get bored and it fades away for another 10-20 years.
... and as far as the DS sales and the Wii sales... you might as well cut them in half when comparing them to competitors because that's essentially what you have to do to compare in terms of revenue; the figure that actually means something. You don't see too many people in furniture going around saying particle board is way better than hardwood because Ikea is selling about five times as many units as any fine furniture store.
I have no idea what you're trying to say with this paragraph.
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just so adult.
Absolute nonsense.
Motion sensing is not a fad, nor a gimmick. A with all technology, it takes a while for developers to put it to good use.
Metroid Prime 3 put it to a pretty good use. It was fun. Now, hopefully, Zelda Skyward Sword will do the same.
Oh yes, there have been poor games (Force Unleashed comes to mind) where the motion sensing just didn't work right. That is not the fault of the concept. It may be the games or the hardware, but not the concept.
It's the future. Accept it.
Oh, and about the whole "we didn't ask for it" and "if it isn't boken, don't fix it" analogy... it's ridiculous. If we stayed true to that, we'd be stuck in the stone age. The thing is, we need evolution and revolution. You may not have asked for it because it has always worked for you, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be innovation. It simply means that you should try it out. Eventually we adapt to the new way of doing things.
Hey, I mean in the old times, we had a controller with two buttons (plus start and select) and a d-pad. What was wrong with that!?! Why did we need these crappy new controllers with lots of buttons when the old one worked?
I will admit that the graphics style in the new game is a little disappointing, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game. Too long there have always been gamers who simply cannot get off their high horse. The graphics are bad. Bad game. It uses motion sensing. Bad game. It's simply a Wii game. Bad game. It doesn't have blood. Bad game. It doesn't have any swearing. Bad game.
So what? I enjoy the games Nintendo do as much as any bloody game with gore and bad language and no motion sensing.
Try it before dismissing it. And stray from the whole "graphics is everything" path.
Sigh.