The world according to Steve Jobs

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    The world according to Steve Jobs

    The PC has been diagnosed as dying yet again.
    Steve Jobs predicts tablets to replace personal computers - Times Online

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    Steve forgot to take his tablets this morning...
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    Maybe give him an iPhonecall, and remind him to do that.

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    Aspirin sells more than 2 million, probably in every single day. I think Aspirin will replace surgery.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    He's got a point though, most people are not more interested in programming their computer than their VCR. An easy interface that hides anything but the users content is probably not a bad idea for most users.

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    Well y'all may enjoy this recent event:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subsonics View Post
    He's got a point though, most people are not more interested in programming their computer than their VCR.
    Ah, you are right, of course. PCs are only useful for programming.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    Ah, you are right, of course. PCs are only useful for programming.
    I did not mean literarily only programming, but say other closely related activities, system administration etc. For the so called "power users" I believe there will still be workstation type boxes but, IMO the majority of the market for "personal" computing will go towards simpler interfaces that let the user focus on their vacation pictures, posting on facebook etc.

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    and gaming, and managing their bills with a tactile keyboard, and studying, and listening to music on the tablet formidable sound output, and burning CDs, and doing that cool thing you see on pictures everywhere: hold it with one hand, make a flashy smile while they oh-so-efficiently type with just the other hand

    And all the while sitting on a couch with no real comfortable position to use the tablet... or lying it on a table and forgetting everything they have been taught about correct sitting positions.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    For the so called "power users" I believe there will still be workstation type boxes but, IMO the majority of the market for "personal" computing will go towards simpler interfaces that let the user focus on their vacation pictures, posting on facebook etc.
    Have you ever tried to type on the thing? What a nightmare.

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    Ok, you both got valid points but I did not really refer to the ipad per se but more to the concept and the future of PC's. I believe it's apples take on the netbook segment, let's say recreational mobile computing. But expanding the concept to something more business or work related would obviously require a keyboard.

    The sound of the thing would depend on if you connect it to an amplifier, it's no different than any pc, you can do that wirelessly BTW.

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    I think people will go back to PCs once the hype (newness) ends.

    I've used a tablet for a year. The first few months are fun, but later I rarely use the touch screen.

    The Mighty Mouse is better in almost all aspects - price, efficiency (moving fingers 2cm is faster than swinging a whole arm across the screen to press the 'x'), effortlessness (if you've used a tablet for any extended amount of time, you'll see what I mean - arms get VERY sore), and accuracy.

    I see it as an example for a change for the sake of change. There really is nothing wrong with the mouse. It has been there for decades and even now all computers still have one. That's because it's a terribly good design.

    Maybe tablets have its use for graphics designers and people that have to use a computer without a desk.

    But for when there is a desk, the mouse is vastly superior.

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    I don't agree, I get pain in my hand from mouse use. Doing things directly with our hands and arms is far more natural to our anatomy. The desktop metaphor with a mouse is already ~25 years old, IMO it will go the same way as the command line interface.

    Also, I think that a touch screen itself is useless unless, the interface is changed to make the most of it. I mean using a regular UI meant for mouse use, is not ideal.
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    Have you tried a tablet?

    25 years old is not a reason for it to go away. If something has been here for this long, it's usually a very good design.

    We have been using forks for centuries.

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    Sure, alot of information kiosks and so on use this type of interface. I'll repeat this though, the interface needs to change to accommodate that way of interaction. Copying an interface meant for mouse to a touch screen is bad. But, I don't have crystal ball anymore than you do, we'll see.

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