12% of e-commerce sites are zombies

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    12% of e-commerce sites are zombies

    I saw a Netcraft ad that says 12% of e-commerce sites are "already controlled by an external hacker". I find this hard to believe.
    What do you think?
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    It's an ad. 'nough said.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    It's an ad. 'nough said.
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    Did they really spell it "extranal"?
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    I wouldn't be terribly surprised. Most e-commerce occurs on a very small number of well-known sites, and I think those sites are the reason e-commerce is as common and safe as it is. Most of the unknown sites have always seemed a little shady to me.

    I think the statistic is misleading in that it tries to convince you that e-commerce is fraudulent 12% of the time, but I could believe 12% of the sites being run by hackers, sure.

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    It's probably 12% of the sites, and 0.000000001% of the business.
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    For any statistical purpose, and without any other information, 12% of the sites means also that 1 in every 8.33 well known e-commerce websites is controlled by hackers.

    As I said. It's an ad. Ignore it.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I do wonder how they came up with those numbers in the first place.

    >> Did they really spell it "extranal"?
    Oops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    For any statistical purpose, and without any other information, 12% of the sites means also that 1 in every 8.33 well known e-commerce websites is controlled by hackers.

    As I said. It's an ad. Ignore it.
    Were does it say "well known?".

    I'm sure in some way they could prove it correct by skewing the definition of e-commerce site, as well as "hacker". In the end, though, Mario is right.

    It's an ad attempting to get you to click on it. Did you? I kind of wonder what it's for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowe View Post
    Were does it say "well known?".
    Nowhere. And that was precisely my point.
    Because there's no clear definition, 12% of all e-commerce websites means... 12%. Including 1 in every 8.33 well known e-commerce websites, 1 in 8.33 not known e-commerce websites, 1 in 8.33 moderately known websites, 1 in 8.33 flower selling websites, 1 in 8.33 porno websites, 1 in 8.33 crack selling websites, ad nausea
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowe View Post
    It's an ad attempting to get you to click on it. Did you? I kind of wonder what it's for.
    Actually no. I assumed it was another one of those "no one knows how to secure systems like us! we have a 0.0% failure rate! buy me" things.
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