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    I can't wait to watch my daughter open her gifts later. My big gift to her is her first computer
    Until you can build a working general purpose reprogrammable computer out of basic components from radio shack, you are not fit to call yourself a programmer in my presence. This is cwhizard, signing off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    I can't wait to watch my daughter open her gifts later. My big gift to her is her first computer
    C64 or VIC 20?
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    Quote Originally Posted by happyclown View Post
    C64 or VIC 20?
    IBM Thinkpad
    Until you can build a working general purpose reprogrammable computer out of basic components from radio shack, you are not fit to call yourself a programmer in my presence. This is cwhizard, signing off.

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    Merry Christmas everyone. Stay stafe and have fun.

    I can't wait to watch my daughter open her gifts later. My big gift to her is her first computer
    Thankfully my daughter isn't quite there yet but she is getting close. At 2 she already wants to sit with me while I program (not at all a good idea since she randomly pushes keyboard keys), and the first thing she does when she comes into our room is play with the mouse and click the buttons. Very soon old dad is going to have to spring for a new computer for the girl.

    Be assured though I will bring her up and teach her in the ways of uber nerdness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Be assured though I will bring her up and teach her in the ways of uber nerdness.
    [Proud Daddy] My little girl asked me to teach her how to program her new computer
    Until you can build a working general purpose reprogrammable computer out of basic components from radio shack, you are not fit to call yourself a programmer in my presence. This is cwhizard, signing off.

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    [Proud Daddy] My little girl asked me to teach her how to program her new computer
    You've done well young Jedi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    [Proud Daddy] My little girl asked me to teach her how to program her new computer
    Certainly, do not ignore such a request.

    I am the programmer I am today because my mother took several Pascal programming courses in the early 1980's. She bought several games for her Commodore 64 for my brother and me to play. I quickly became much more interested in the "blue screen" (C64 BASIC prompt which appears on boot-up) than the games themselves.

    I was dissing on BASIC in another thread. It may be a crappy language but it kickstarted my career, even though I didn't realize it for another 12 years.
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    //try
    //{
    	if (a) do { f( b); } while(1);
    	else   do { f(!b); } while(1);
    //}

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewbuck View Post
    I was dissing on BASIC in another thread. It may be a crappy language but it kickstarted my career, even though I didn't realize it for another 12 years.
    Yeah, I'm torn on whether to start her on BASIC, or just jump right into teaching her C/C++. BASIC is a lot easier to grasp, but I think either one will be about the same to a 7 year old and if she gets started in C/C++ it might be better in the long run. Then again, for teh stuff she will be doing like printing her name etc, cout is probably easier to learn than the PRINT command.
    Until you can build a working general purpose reprogrammable computer out of basic components from radio shack, you are not fit to call yourself a programmer in my presence. This is cwhizard, signing off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler
    Yeah, I'm torn on whether to start her on BASIC, or just jump right into teaching her C/C++. BASIC is a lot easier to grasp, but I think either one will be about the same to a 7 year old and if she gets started in C/C++ it might be better in the long run. Then again, for teh stuff she will be doing like printing her name etc, cout is probably easier to learn than the PRINT command.
    What about teaching her programming using Python? Admittedly, I make this suggestion motivated less by pedagogical concerns than by a joke that involves a little girl and a python:
    A little girl goes into a pet show and asks for a wabbit. The shop keeper looks down at her, smiles and says:

    "Would you like a lovely fluffy little white rabbit, or a cutesy wootesly little brown rabbit?"

    "Actually", says the little girl, "I don't think my python would notice."
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight View Post
    What about teaching her programming using Python? Admittedly, I make this suggestion motivated less by pedagogical concerns than by a joke that involves a little girl and a python:
    Lol, I think I should stick to a language I know well enough to teach, which sort of limits it to BASIC, C/C++ or assembly, and I just sort of discounted assembly out of hand.
    Until you can build a working general purpose reprogrammable computer out of basic components from radio shack, you are not fit to call yourself a programmer in my presence. This is cwhizard, signing off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    Lol, I think I should stick to a language I know well enough to teach, which sort of limits it
    This leaves more opportunities for the girl to be corrupted later by the dark side

    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    Then again, for teh stuff she will be doing like printing her name etc, cout is probably easier to learn than the PRINT command.
    Esp. since the plural of cout, as everyone knows, is "couties".
    C programming resources:
    GNU C Function and Macro Index -- glibc reference manual
    The C Book -- nice online learner guide
    Current ISO draft standard
    CCAN -- new CPAN like open source library repository
    3 (different) GNU debugger tutorials: #1 -- #2 -- #3
    cpwiki -- our wiki on sourceforge

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK27 View Post
    This leaves more opportunities for the girl to be corrupted later by the dark side
    ... we are the dark side ...
    Until you can build a working general purpose reprogrammable computer out of basic components from radio shack, you are not fit to call yourself a programmer in my presence. This is cwhizard, signing off.

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