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    For us, it's 7 years primary + 5 years high school, then university.

    From what I understood, for you, it's 10 years primary (or 7 + 3 primary and high school), 2-3 years college, and then university. Is that right?

    For us, college and university are used almost interchangeably.

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    ahh... Yeah, that's true
    Also, why you both talking about some damn hill with snow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MK27 View Post
    It is not such a bad place to get stranded tho! I used to ride my MTB up that hill everyday, 365m above the ocean at the foot. Which meant I also got to ride it down the hill, thru the woods. My roommates used to joke "I know MK went to class today because of all the open cuts". It was a very fairy tale idyllic place IMO. I notice they used the campus a lot for the Caprica settings in Battlestar Galactica.
    Wow, that sounds like fun. I should go there some time (on a non-snowing-day). It's just an hour of bus + skytrain from where I live... If I don't get lost, that is.

    UBC is just... flat, with squarely buildings and straight roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkernight View Post
    Also, why you both talking about some damn hill with snow?
    Because some people decided that it would be a good idea to build a university on some damn hill with snow, when Canada has more cows than people, and plenty of space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    Wow, that sounds like fun. I should go there some time (on a non-snowing-day). It's just an hour of bus + skytrain from where I live... If I don't get lost, that is.

    UBC is just... flat, with squarely buildings and straight roads.
    It's a mountain bike mecca, like the north shore (almost). Miles and miles and miles of trails thru the endowment lands. Just don't go down the north side, it ends at the wrong end of a gun range

    Vis, differences in school systems, consider this: I got to "the best school in the country" for $4000 CDN per semester, no scholarship. I was just looking at the NYU web site (which is pretty reputable): undergrad tuition for the fall term (??!) starts at $38,756 US.

    Totally crazy! Do some "Microsoft Math" on that one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MK27 View Post
    It's a mountain bike mecca, like the north shore (almost). Miles and miles and miles of trails thru the endowment lands. Just don't go down the north side, it ends at the wrong end of a gun range
    haha I'll keep that in mind.

    Vis, differences in school systems, consider this: I got to "the best school in the country" for $4000 CDN per semester, no scholarship. I was just looking at the NYU web site (which is pretty reputable): undergrad tuition for the fall term (??!) starts at $38,756 US.

    Totally crazy! Do some "Microsoft Math" on that one!
    I am paying about $4000 per term, too, but scholarships covered half of that for my first year.

    I thought about going to an American university, too, but couldn't be bothered with SAT (Stupid American Test), and they charge about 4x the tuition for foreigners. I considered University of Toronto as well, which appears to be the "best" university at the current time, but it's covered in snow 75% of the year... and is going to cost me a few times more (I did apply for fun and got accepted, though, and I didn't even send them all the required grades ).

    I don't think "good" schools matter as much nowadays. There was a "research" published on the Macleans magazine (they regularly rank Canadian universities based on a lot of things) a while ago that agrees with me. They first compared Harvard (or another Ivy league school) students' average salaries some years after graduation to that of another, a lot less known school. There was a significant difference. And then, they compared the salaries of the same Harvard kids, with people who got accepted into Harvard, but went to the little known school for some reason. And they saw no difference.

    It's the students that matter. Schools can only do so much.

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    If you're on your 11th year, then anything higher than a Ti-Calc 83 is way overkill. Heck, even the Ti itself is probably overkill, I'd say. You probably won't use even 95% of the stuff it offers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    For us, it's 7 years primary + 5 years high school, then university.

    From what I understood, for you, it's 10 years primary (or 7 + 3 primary and high school), 2-3 years college, and then university. Is that right?

    For us, college and university are used almost interchangeably.
    For the US its usually 9 years primary (including kindergarten) and 4 years high school. College in the US is way overpriced right now. Mainly because with the shifting economy, the traditional post secondary education infrastructure can't support the load. Unfortunately the extra profits are being viewed as windfalls instead of being used to expand the infrastructure's capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    Ah I see. That sounds like fun. I just googled about it and it is indeed very different from the system we have here in North America. For us in Canada, BC at least, we have 7 years of elementary school, 5 years of high school (last 2 years optional), and university/college (also optional).
    For me in Ontario, it was K-8 for Elementary, then 5 years of high school. Although they dropped OAC (grade 13) a few years after I finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    I considered University of Toronto as well, which appears to be the "best" university at the current time, but it's covered in snow 75% of the year...
    The more snow the better in Toronto, otherwise you actually have to look at the place :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    For the US its usually 9 years primary (including kindergarten) and 4 years high school. College in the US is way overpriced right now. Mainly because with the shifting economy, the traditional post secondary education infrastructure can't support the load. Unfortunately the extra profits are being viewed as windfalls instead of being used to expand the infrastructure's capacity.
    Happy me!
    I pay not a single coin for education at college. All paid by the state.
    Meh, they still force us to pay for literature, though, those bastards.
    The US should pour more money into infrastructure instead of military, methinks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    British Columbia (a western Canadian province), where I live, charges 12% sales tax, and we still don't get free college.

    I think only oil states can afford to pay for everyone to go to college.

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    That's not true. I don't live in an oil country (though I live right next to one, though). And still we get free college among many other things.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Oil or mine or some other valuable natural resources for export?

    How else can they afford it? Do they charge 30% tax?

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    Depends on what it is.
    For products, the tax is 30%, 12% or 6%.
    For wages, about 50% of the wage is tax.
    And of course, every company must pay tax on their profit, as well. I don't know that sum off-hand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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