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    Windows 7 Released to Manufacturing

    Well, it looks like the next iteration of windows is about to start hitting the .... shelves. What do you guys think about it, did you participate in the beta, interested? unenthusiastic?

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    >> Well, it looks like the next iteration of windows is about to start hitting the .... shelves. What do you guys think about it, did you participate in the beta, interested? unenthusiastic?

    One word - frisbee! (and an expensive one, at that)
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    #include <cmath>
    #include <complex>
    bool euler_flip(bool value)
    {
        return std::pow
        (
            std::complex<float>(std::exp(1.0)), 
            std::complex<float>(0, 1) 
            * std::complex<float>(std::atan(1.0)
            *(1 << (value + 2)))
        ).real() < 0;
    }

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    Not really motivated to upgrade. Would have to eventually, I guess. With the end of XP support and all...

    I have access to Win7 through MSDN. Sometime in the next couple of months, I'll try it out. Chances are I'll keep distancing myself from Microsoft.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I intend to upgrade most of my computer at around the time when Ubuntu 9.10 comes out, which should be a week after Windows 7 hits the shelves. At the moment I am running a dual boot of Ubuntu 8.04 and Windows XP SP3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    Not really motivated to upgrade. Would have to eventually, I guess. With the end of XP support and all...
    I don't know where people keep getting this idea that support for XP is ending. I have a guarantee of continued support for XP embedded for at least another 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler
    I have a guarantee of continued support for XP embedded for at least another 5 years.
    That seems to apply to everyone: Microsoft Support Lifecycle says extended support for all versions of Windows XP ends on 8 April 2014 (since that comes before 2 years after the release of service pack 3).
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
    I get maybe two dozen requests for help with some sort of programming or design problem every day. Most have more sense than to send me hundreds of lines of code. If they do, I ask them to find the smallest example that exhibits the problem and send me that. Mostly, they then find the error themselves. "Finding the smallest program that demonstrates the error" is a powerful debugging tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight View Post
    That seems to apply to everyone: Microsoft Support Lifecycle says extended support for all versions of Windows XP ends on 8 April 2014 (since that comes before 2 years after the release of service pack 3).
    I think you meant 2 years after the end of the world in the Mayan calender, or else your current system is 3 years in the future. I don't have XP, so I can't say for sure.
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    Current ISO draft standard
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    I'm crossing my fingers that MS makes it available on MSDNAA. Not really keen on spending $200 to upgrade.

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    I am so impressed by Windows XP, I'll be sticking with it until 2014, and beyond!

    BEST OS EVER!
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    err... that was a major fail on my part. I didn't know XP support had been extended again beyond 2010.

    With that, chances are I will not be doing the upgrade very soon. I will still try it out sometime soon, though.
    Windows XP hit a sweet spot in that it is still applicable to all applications I use or plan to use in the near future. The following OS releases, including Windows 7, seem to not offer anything really substantial that justifies an upgrade. But by keeping to provide new software that is purposely not compatible with XP (like they did with ActiveX), Microsoft will eventually force me out of XP. That didn't happen with Vista, but eventually I won't be able to skip Windows 7.
    Last edited by Mario F.; 07-29-2009 at 04:52 AM.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Vista runs just fine on my machine, so I don't see any need to upgrade.
    Maybe if they release a trial version in one of their Virtual PC images I'll try it out, but I'm not spending money on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MK27
    I think you meant 2 years after the end of the world in the Mayan calender, or else your current system is 3 years in the future. I don't have XP, so I can't say for sure.
    No, I am using an advanced calendar system that is beyond your understanding. Poor you.

    Jokes aside, I am not sure why I made that comment. Presumably if there is no future service pack after SP3, then that criterion can be disregarded.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
    I get maybe two dozen requests for help with some sort of programming or design problem every day. Most have more sense than to send me hundreds of lines of code. If they do, I ask them to find the smallest example that exhibits the problem and send me that. Mostly, they then find the error themselves. "Finding the smallest program that demonstrates the error" is a powerful debugging tool.
    Look up a C++ Reference and learn How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

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    I will only upgrade if I need to. The "new" Windows Vista was too expensive, I couldn't afford it quickly. Then I saw it wasn't as good as XP.

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    Even if I wanted to upgrade, I always wait at least a year or two before upgrading (until the first service pack is out), that way I can let everyone else test it in the battle field.
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    Why do I see a lot of "I might test it" in here?
    It's been in beta and RC forever. Why haven't you snagged a copy and tried it out? Seriously? Does anyone here think Microsoft is just going to hand out a test version for free? Well, not to promote piracy or anything, but the RC build is still out there, and it will last into about March/April next year, so you might still be able to test run it. Just don't expect to download it from Microsoft servers anymore.
    As for the whole upgrade for me... well, I do like Win7. But is it worth the money to upgrade? No. Never.
    Then there's the whole issue with Win7E, which hopefully will be resolved soon as Microsoft is opening up to the EU suggestion.
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