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    i'm still happy with my newly installed xp pro
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    Have you even tried Win7?
    MarioF: RC has been stable all the time for me. What I particularly disliked is some things that wasn't fixed since Vista. Mostly minor things.
    Windows search still doesn't work very well or fast.
    The problems reports and solutions has been dumbed down and hidden - a feature that I loved in Vista.
    There are or may still be some bugs left in the product that I've encountered, but still minor things.
    The (in)ability to simply switch Aero on/off (you have to change the entire theme; backgrounds and everything).
    I honestly can't say there's anything major that annoys me really much.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Any compatibility problems with older programs?

    I understand you are coming from Vista, but since I'm doing it from XP, this is the thing worrying me much. I'm going to run it off a VM for a while, at least to test it out on some of my most used software. But if you have any additional info, all the better.

    I'm planning to start a new thread shortly with a list of compatible and incompatible XP->7 software. Think it may be useful to a few.
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I like windows 7 enough to upgrade. It really solves a lot of usability issues I have with xp. Granted I use some 3rd party apps which help with that, windows 7 kind of makes those optional instead of a necessity. I would buy it, granted I would wait out if there is a prospect of a discount (Job is a microsoft partner so employees get discounts) otherwise I'd pay full price.
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    Anyone know about the usability of the command-line in Windows 7? I tried using Vista for work, but it wouldn't allow me to resize the command-window. It turned out to be updated graphics drivers Windows had automatically installed, but switching back to the old ones caused untold-problems (even with MS tech support on the phone - who told me to "delete all my graphics drivers"... ha ha).

    The Win7 RC had the same problem on my laptop - anyone know about the RTM version?

    edit... probably should've brought this up on page 1 of this thread...

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    The command line is fine here but there's still some graphical gremlins. If my laptop monitor turns off, it won't come back on again unless I press the power button (which promptly commences shut down). That's using the MS stock display driver since installing SiS's shunts me down to 640x480 with a massive 16 colours. As long as I stop that from happening, everything's being fine with the RC so far.

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    Works fine for me on this VM. VMWare hasn't provided a graphics card that supports aero yet. So I dunno if that can have any effect. But with aero turned off and VMWare display driver, I can resize the command prompt window just fine.

    I'll be installing the RTM sometime later today after I finish backing up everything. It will be running on a Dual Core E4500 2.20Ghz with 3Gb RAM and an ATI Radeon HD4770. ATI has already provided drivers for Windows 7. I'll let you know.
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    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I have never been able to resize the cmd prompt.
    I cannot vouch for XP Mode since my old cpu doesn't support hardware virtualization. But I haven't had any problems with any program that I use.
    Although I have encountered a few programs that have incompatibility problems. Usually it's some old version or something I don't really use.
    A lot of programs still have problems with UAC on (and I still think it's fundamentally flawed on many points), so I don't use it. Ever.

    The action center can be a little annoying. If it finds a problem, an icon pops up in the sys tray. But it never EVER pops up any message, so 99% of the time, you don't even know there is a problem.
    And funny enough, of all the security things that it monitors, I've disabled all but two.
    I never put Windows Update to automatically update, so I have to disable that notification.
    I don't use real-time AV monitoring either (slows down system too much, at least with Microsoft's solutions), so I disable that notification too.
    The same goes for spyware.
    UAC is flawed, so I disable it.
    And finally, I have no friggin' idea what Network Access Protection is or how to activate it. Kudos to Microsoft for making it impossible to understand it. The help link is just useless.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    I have never been able to resize the cmd prompt.
    What da?... what kind of resizing are we talking about here?
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    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I'm referring to the ability to make the terminal windows take up the full screen, or at least most of it.

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    I can make it take up half by maximizing it, but that's rather futile since it will only make the text larger.
    Fullscreen doesn't work for me. Of course I can change the rows/cols of a command prompt manually to extend it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    A shame you can't use different terminals/consoles, some of them are just zany.

    Googling for windows all I found was this:

    Console | Get Console at SourceForge.net

    There's a glowing review here:

    Garbage Burrito - Console 2: The Windows Command Prompt Replacement

    One of you geniuses should give that a spin. Looks like it's quite actively maintained.

    Someone also claims there is an rxvt in the cygwin package. rxvt ain't the hottest terminal around (like 1 step up from the xterm), but it may still be better than what you've got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    I'm referring to the ability to make the terminal windows take up the full screen, or at least most of it.
    Ah! Gotcha.

    No. Can't do that either. But could never since win98, I believe. Not the selling point, but another reason why I switched a long time ago to alternative consoles under windows.
    The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”
    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Oh that's what you meant, you can do that easily.

    Right click the title bar->properties->Layout and set the Screen Buffer Size: Width to a bigger number (125 is sufficient for me, other resolutions will probably differ), then maximize it.

    If it doesn't quite cover, use a higher number; if you get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom, make it smaller, rinse and repeat.

    As long as you never change the screen buffer width it'll always maximize to full size.

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    I know how to do it, but updates in Windows Vista specifically prevented me from getting more than half the screen covered. Microsoft's own response was that some updated drivers had dropped support for that, and even though nothing they said made any sense - what I was asking was if anyone could confirm the behavior in the final Windows 7. The RC didn't work for me in that regard.

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